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| Master Prophet E. Bernard Mar Elijah Jordan |
The Word Network is airing a "Prophetic Summit" on the program 'Rejoice In The Word ' with Bishop George Bloomer. The center of attention seems to be "Master" Prophet and (I'll add "False Prophet") E. Bernard Mar Elijah Jordan. (Read where the names come from HERE) There are so many problems and scriptural issues with certain assertions that have been delivered by the panelists, I almost don't know where to begin. There are some good and insightful guests of course, but you know it was a bad show when Pimpoliscious himself served as a co-moderator.
Ahhhhh.....In what I believe was segment 2 of this program Bishop Bloomer asked the panel to address the difference between a prognosticator and a biblical prophet, asking the question does one facilitate the other. For a point of reference, the word prognosticator is defined as follows:
Prognosticator:One who foretells the future from signs or symptoms.
To be clear, a biblical and Christ centered prophecy HAS NOTHING TO DO with prognostication which includes the reading of horror-scopes (telling or diving times) or reading or defining information from current symbols contained within the natural universe as it pertains to issues of righteousness and holiness.
Something That Must Be UnderstoodThere are some difficult passages to understand within the bible. However, to understand them correctly, we must remember that God was the only entity that was to be consulted for direction of the people. For example, we must keep in mind that God didn't allow the Urim and Thummim (Ex. 28:30) to speak or tell the Priest anything on it's own, and nether did they look to it without looking first to God and following his direction regarding the stones. When Saul did this, he was punished for his actions(see 1Samuel 28) This was to be a major difference between the people of God and pagans. In addition, we must also clarify that the "glory" that the heavens declare (Jer. 23:24, Ps. 19:1) is a teleological or creative glory of the Lord. The created order of the universe and it's precision speaks to both the existence and the magnificent greatness of the Lord, not some mystical or meta-spiritual direction or path that we are to enjoin, entertain or follow.
Within the word, it was the heathen nations, and peoples that did not know God that relied upon the stars, astrology and secret knowledge called "gnosis" (secret or hidden knowledge) for direction and understanding of the universe and of God. Teachings of meta-spiritual laws, practiced and developed within past generations, exist today wrapped up in principles such as "speak it into existence", "the laws of attraction", "the laws of prosperity" " the laws of wealth" and includes other practices such as speaking to one's wallet until it is filled with money. These meta-spiritual and gnostic principles and concepts ARE NOT biblical laws nor are they biblical principles. In fact many of these so called laws fly directly in the face of biblical principles and scriptural demands. One very popular pastor from the Chicago area recently stated on his 30 minute commercial that if a person really understood the word of faith as he was teaching it, and began to use it, the person would be "a millionaire in a month" Of course, all one had to do was buy his current series to learn how to get that million. These are ridiculous notions. This is simply "snake-oil", sold by television carnies, putting on a traveling show filled with bogus promises to attract whatever dollars that they can from the masses of needy people.Is Mar Elijah Jordan An Astrologer?
Another question that came up, actually at the direction of Pimpoliscious himself, regarded Jordan's use of astrology within his prophetic practice...In this, Jordan did two things. First, he denied that he was an astrologer and claimed that he didn't know when and how people thought he used astrology. However, take a look at this video and it will be clear that Jordan himself makes the statements regarding his use and understanding of astrology. His answer to the panel was a complete fabrication. Take a look:
4:11-9 Teaching with Master Prophet E. Bernard Jordan
(Video has built in commercials, it may stop suddenly. Please work with it and restart, it is about 10 minutes long)
One can clearly see, that Jordan not only associates astrology with biblical prophecy, but he has also developed a complete hermeneutic to justify it. This is in clear violation of the scriptures:
Deut. 18:9-14 ~ 9-When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. 10-There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times or an enchanter, or a witch, 11-Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 12-For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. 13-Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. 14-For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
Astrology is not neither has it ever been a biblical practice. Consulting stars is not and was not, neither has it ever been a way that people were told to consult the God of the universe. The names attributed to Barnabas and Paul were names given to them by PAGAN GREEKS who practiced idolatry, NOT by God himself. God didn't change Paul's name to Mercurius, neither did God call Barnabas Jupiter. Men did that.
Acts 14:12 ~ "And ***they*** called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker."
A second thing that Jordan, with very little scriptural resistance IF ANY, was redefine the term "false prophet" to mean anyone who delivers a word who's life wasn't centered in Christ. Jordan even stated that it was impossible for a Christian believer to be a "false prophet" no matter what. Aside from the fact that this is a totally biblicaly illiterate rendering of what false prophet means it is also yet another fabrication. May that is due to the fact that Jordan regularly prophesies falsely both on his show and on the Al Sharpton radio program almost weekly.
To clarify, SAINTS don't look to anyone who is not centered in Christ for information into spiritual things anyway. Secondly, anyone speaking presumptuously, falsely or delivering false or inaccurate information was considered a "false prophet". The "false" of the false prophet was based on the content of what was said, not because of their supposed relationship to or within the natural body of believers.
Deut. 18: 20-22 ~ "20-But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21-And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22-When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
The prophet speaking as inspired by God was never wrong and although he may have delivered conditional prophecies, such as the one Jonah delivered to Nineveh, was never ashamed or embarrassed by the word not coming to pass, because it was IMPOSSIBLE for God to lie.
Numbers 23:19 ~ "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"
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Heb. 6:18 ~"That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:"
TO further debunk Jordan's atrocious presentation of esotericism, in Jeremiah, Hananiah delivered a false prophecy causing Israel to believe in a lie. Hananiah was in the school of the prophets, therefore he was associated with them that called upon the name of the Lord. However, his false words sealed the fate of Israel at the hands of their enemies and also cost him his life.
Jeremiah 28:15 ~ "Then said the prophet Jeremiah unto Hananiah the prophet, Hear now, Hananiah; The LORD hath not sent thee; but thou makest this people to trust in a lie."
Called by a self ascribed and made up title, "master prophet" Jordan also declared that he is a "master" because he has spent well over the 10,000 hours necessary to "master" his office. Surprisingly, the panel guests were anxious to accept that rendering claiming that their education had qualified them to be considered "masters" at what they do. After all, most of them had to get their "Masters Degree" before their Doctorates, so that made sense...
HARDLY!!! What he actually did was follow in the line of ANE (Ancient Near Eastern) mysticism in ascribing the term "master" to himself. Under ANE systems and terms. The word "Adoni" was translated as the word master. It was also translated as "my Lord" at times. nonetheless, the context of the word was primarily a declaration of supreme authority and superiority. Here is it's etymology:
Master ~ O.E. mægester "one having control or authority," from L. magister "chief, head, director, teacher" (cf. O.Fr. maistre, Fr. maître, It. maestro, Ger. Meister), influenced in M.E. by O.Fr. maistre, from L. magister, contrastive adj. from magis (adv.) "more," itself a comp. of magnus "great." Meaning "original of a recording" is from 1904. In academic senses (from M.L. magister) it is attested from late 14c., originally a degree conveying authority to teach in the universities. The verb is attested from early 13c.
In the sense that it is used before the word prophet it is descriptive of the prophecy and is therefore an adjective. This is what the word "master" means when used as an adjective to describe prophet:
~ dominant, chief or principal:(such as a master list) directing or controlling: (such as a master switch) of or pertaining to a master (from which copies are made: master film; master matrix; master record; master tape) dominating or predominant; eminently skilled: (a master diplomat; a master pianist) being a master carrying on one's trade independently, rather than a worker employed by another ~
First, of all 10,000 hours of ANYTHING has nothing to do with being a "master" in this sense. Being a "master" with God cannot be gained by time or money. Large crowds won't provide it either. Secondly noone one is a "master" of anything spiritual or that pertains to God because God himself is dominate and not man or men. We have been given GIFTS that do not belong to us that we are to use responsibly and skillfully.
Conclusion:
The sad part is that noone
I haven't even touched on his requirement saying that anyone who receives from God must have some money to pay in return. This was BLATANT apostasy hailed as some great spiritual truth. These are the PROFITS...Now, where where are the real men and women of God?
Blessed!
Additional Reading:
The 2008 Bloomer-Burrino Prophecy
Is There Room For false Prophecy Or "Inaccuracy" Among Modern Day Prophets?
You asked where are the real men and women of God?
ReplyDeleteThey are somewhere in the shadows trying not to be noticed, although children of Light, being in the background is the only reference for being in the shadows because we are well enlighten and enriched by the word of The LORD!!
This man is a joke while being far from funny! He is a charlatan of the 1st order (pun intended!). As well as that in-sync crew of his that grovel into the slow pitched batting practiced homeruns that they continually serve up E. Bernard. Truly amateurs at work although they think not!!
You asked where are the real men and women of God? Most of us don't have a platform from which to come against this. Satan has made sure his angels of light have a lot of money and air time. I still know that the Bible is right, and these evil men and women need to be called out by name!!!!! When they speak it publicly, then we have a right and a responsibility to judge the statements by the Word of God!!!
ReplyDeleteThe real women and men of God are looking to God for everything and:
WE are being ostracized for not falling for this junk.
WE are being called "haters".
WE are being asked "who are you to judge"
WE are on the streets preaching and witnessing truthfully as often and as loudly as we can
We are being told "Go away and take God with you"
WE have left these prison houses and are trying to find a place that worships in spirit and in truth
WE are crying loud and sparing not!
We are trying to support anyone who is preaching the truth.
WE are being persecuted, after all is a servant above his Master?
Keep exposing the lies of satan my brother. I have directed more people here to read for themselves. I see more willful ignorance when it comes to these folks than I ever thought I would!
God bless you!
Vaughn,
ReplyDeleteI hear you...The problem is that too many good ministers take a back seat in silence. To speak against this stuff and these people openly certainly closes doors for people who aspire to have what they have and run in their circles.
I say the real prophets need to stand and repudiate this false version of prophets. Some of the guests were uncomfortable on the panel.
I haven't followed Brian Mosley too much, but he was about the best one on the panel. Dr. Belinda Scott was good too, her husband and I don't see eye to eye, but she seems to stable.
Then there was Prophet Todd Hall...I know he's a popular one on the "circuit" but he seemed a little disturbed also...I don't know...all of them weren't bad, but to rally around Jordan and his misuse of the bible in silence...they showed that they weren't biblical prophets who would have stood against the apostasy and incoherent ramblings of Jordan...
Real SAINTS...take a stand!
Marcia,
ReplyDeleteThat touches on another thing...WE, that believe God and believe in the TRUTH must support one another and give our platforms to one another to promote righteousness...
I have a short list of people that I try to bring here every now and then. When they come I need the people who are dedicated to truth to show up and support them and our efforts.
It's funny how the charlatans can raise all kinds of money. In fact one of the "prophetesses" said that her job was to raise money as if the people were just for the sole purpose of supporting them and their ministries...Like Mosley said, these folk are using the people of GOd for monetary considerations and not ministering to needs for soul considerations...
BTW: Keep doing ALL those things these charlatans and the biblically unlearned say that you are doing...TRUTH is the antidote to this sickness.
Good Bless Supt. Burnett,
ReplyDeleteI watched that summit on Friday night and I actually attempted to contact the Word Network to try to obtain a copy of the summit before it aired to see the response of one particualar panelist who claims that she stands for truth.(the one who claims she has a pastor's heart and raise money to help the pastor). My question to you is Did you come away with the sense that the panel actually validated the hustle of E. Bernard Jordan due to fact that no one really challenged him on what he was saying.
Min. Terry
Min, Terry,
ReplyDeleteYou asked:" My question to you is Did you come away with the sense that the panel actually validated the hustle of E. Bernard Jordan due to fact that no one really challenged him on what he was saying."
ABSOLUTELY!
They validated it and that particular prophetess/pastor that sat to the right of him (looking on) said that her mission was to raise money...now, Jordan already said in the video and in the other I have at The Dunamis View on You Tube,that every prophet must have money...For hi money is part of the mission and he continues in this farce of an apostate doctrine inspired by his spiritual father REV. IKE.
Ike, pimped until he died and was the godfather of the modern pimp preacher movement...Father Divine was the DADDY and Jordan moves in the spirit of them all...In fact, I can name about two to three more of them that have a mixture of these demons, use big words, say nothing and are confused scripturally...
Was he (Jordan) giving a blanket definition of what a "prophet" is?
ReplyDeleteBecause if that is the case, I would have to refer to Elijah and the prophets of baal
That scripture gives clear distinction of who a true prophet is and what a true word from a prophet is also
and that Elijah was not the only true prophet, but that true prophets are always outnumbered and persecuted
because they bring the true message of God that totally contradicts what caters to the flesh
And I wholeheartedly agree with your reference to REV IKE. Just look at his "theology". It was ahead of it's time. Totally apostate.
Some of these ministers today are mixing foreign gods (mamon) with Jesus to attain something of their own desires.
Thank God for the Spirit of discernment, sheesh!
Chris M,
ReplyDeleteThanks for commenting. In the segment I saw Jordan gave the definition of a false prophet as one who was trying to prophesy in a pagan sense. he said that it was virtually impossible for a Christian to be a false prophet. He gave no credence to the content of what was said. In fact he suggested that what was said was based on some type of uniform standard of encouragement rather than a specific word of the Lord toward a specific situation.
For example, according to him, the reasons that prophets are prophesying houses, land and businesses is because they are directing people to a greater vision whereby they will be sustained or bettered for the future, not so much because GOd wants them to specifically have land, business or a house...What one would gather from what he said is really strange.
So it is a total redefinition of scripture and an encouragement to "do" something that is not necessarily specific from GOd, but that comes from a "good" heart or one that has a commitment to Christ.
Of course there was no distinguishable reference regarding those who were liars either. One brought up the scripture where they "prophesied in his name" but God said "depart, you worker of iniquity, I never knew you" but they didn't develop the thought on that as to what that means as it pertained to this topic.
It was a session devoid of poignant truths on the issue for sure.
I received this message from one of our readers regarding this "apostate gathering of perpetrating prophets" This message was edited for content:
ReplyDelete"Please be in prayer for our city. I have just learned that the prophetic Summit will be coming to Cleveland December 27-29 complete with Prophet Bernard Jordan some of
the other panelist and Juanita Bynum. They will be doing a life recording for the show here. We are in prayer (certain portions edited) Belinda Scott did make a statement regarding the show that God had called her to do the show and that little people with no major platforms should not be commenting on the Summit."
So here we go again, another "touch not" for the promotion of heretics. Why shouldn't us "little people with no major platforms" (whatever that means) expose these false teachers and heretics? Because they aren't saved for one, and only run in their viscous circle of elitists. Evidently they think they can outdo Eddie, Earl and the list goes on and on.
So watch out Cleveland as you prepare to become the epicenter of the "FALSE profit" movement for a couple of days. Also the bars should be aware too, because alcohol sales will certainly increase also. Sad shame!
Most importantly is how the now Arch Bishop Bernard Elijah Jordan, Bishop Charlie Barrion, Prophet Yakim Manasseh Jordan & Bishop Xavier Eikenrotten can get away with raping me, advising-THREATS,SHUNNING, ABUSE, BRAINWASHING, SEX ABUSE GROOMING/BONDING-EMOTION,ETC me to NOT report Dr. Spencer Frye Johnson's malpractice & state God will take care of him, thus only that they could further abuse me & obtain years of income from me and their connections/enablers NEVER report them. They actually have people doing illegal crimes for them in the r&b, rap & drug trade. Money laundering from sending you to UPC to Zoe Ministries, etc & embed sex cult ceremonies & use of music & nuero linguistics to hynotise you, distant (TOUCH RAPE) healing.
ReplyDeleteI reported to DA's in NY, NJ. THAT'S AMERICAN RELIGIOU$ INDUSTRIAL CHURCH ECONOMICS. Since 2010 and I still have no justice yet retailiated when I question. Manasseh an condo in Trump's Tower with Paula White-Cain. Give $10,000 for Benny Hinn covering to rape more women. Al Sharpton /NAACP doesn't help when white/ black cops/guards set you up & put you in jail. They have an Cooperate connections with Christian Pastors & their wives (that believe they are Lord's & Kings and can rape women as concubines so they don't have to deal with their lust. These males make sure you establish an pure and Holy intimate relationship with Jesus and the Holy Spirit then rape you during that Season in your spiritual journey. Not just your body but your mind & brand or bore you to them so they can continue to sexually assault you from a distance of MILES & call it CHRISTIAN SEXUAL HEALING. Yet if you are healing a woman's reproductive organs why does she have to be forced unto having an organism & they obtain an feeling not only in consciousness of awareness of the act but unto themselves feeling the climax. Force Promised wife upon a woman. Keep them from family and friends for years making them believe their family and friends hated them. Yet teach this horrible form of submission in Southern Baptist Churches around the USA. Gay men of their God in the closet of Catholic Priest regularly raping both males/females in the African American and Caucasian Mega to corner Churches & the Mega leaders ENABLERS. WHAT ARE LOCAL POLICE DOING ENABLING-perhaps because the Pastor of UPC once was NYPD's Clergy Council, Kenneth Copeland let's the Police train on his property (CHARITY- he says Donald Trump knows about Charity & laughs stating he gave to an Military MusueM renovation after being questioned about his military excuse$. INSULT to give the NAACP award to Rihanna after the domestic abuse she has overcome. That was his Charity act of complete DISDAIN FOR WOMAN, MOTHERS & SONS that ALL come from females. A SERIOUS CLEANING IS GOING ON. The American Clergy for years have known the TRUTH of NO MEAT yet they are Mega & make$ via non-profit to their own communities. From Mastir Prophet giving away Turkeys to little black inner city children with Rev. Run to Paula White-Cain sparing the Turkey with Trump. AFRICAN Prophets Pompeii, etc come in the Country & set up sex/marriage bonding etc for them. SPEAK TO YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, DA'S, SENATORS BUT FIRST YOUR CHILDREN & ASK THEM WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT "THE CAR" street gangs using music (Tribalism) for hypnosis to citizens of America and WHY DON'T YOU SPEAK UP. IT'S THE LEGAL TAX CODE CLERGY AND OTHER CLERGY AND MEMBERS NOT SPEAKING UP. Not energy medicine but psychopath narcissistic sadistic Clergy and their ENABLERS. WHICH ONE ARE YOU? These Clergy are litterally calling upon spritual warfare of the 3rd Heaven in personality to the Devil & assaulting people that don't obey them. Anal, Vaginal and other body parts including brain. SILENCE WHEN YOU ARE TOLD (the victim is mentally ill) UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO YOU.
QUESTION IS; Will Panel come forward that know this is going on or just attend another Eddie Long Mega freaking funeral. When did Christ murder people? Get real Christians check YOURSELVES. USA/ISREAL women beneath males and USA honors that technology Babylonian Tower, yet they don't release Garden of Eden isn't in the by & by UNTIL THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT FROM TRUMP. WHY ARE WE STILL KILLING. You mean to tell me the drones couldn't shut down his transportation. Christians need to STOP SUPPORTING SUCH VIOLENCE. We have an kill ecstasy just like those that couldn't stop whipping Jesus. A FREAKIN SPIRITUAL FRENZY.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what happened here...I can't call it!!! Not gonna try. Lord PLEASE help the mind. It's a terrible thing to waste! In JESUS name is my prayer!
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