E. Bernard Mar Elijah Jordan
The Word Network is airing a "Prophetic Summit" on the program 'Rejoice In The Word ' with Bishop George Bloomer. The center of attention seems to be "Master" Prophet and (I'll add "False Prophet") E. Bernard Mar Elijah Jordan. (Read where the names come from HERE) There are so many problems and scriptural issues with certain assertions that have been delivered by the panelists, I almost don't know where to begin. There are some good and insightful guests of course, but you know it was a bad show when Pimpoliscious himself served as a co-moderator.
Ahhhhh.....In what I believe was segment 2 of this program Bishop Bloomer asked the panel to address the difference between a prognosticator and a biblical prophet, asking the question does one facilitate the other. For a point of reference, the word prognosticator is defined as follows:
Prognosticator:One who foretells the future from signs or symptoms.
To be clear, a biblical and Christ centered prophecy HAS NOTHING TO DO with prognostication which includes the reading of horror-scopes (telling or diving times) or reading or defining information from current symbols contained within the natural universe as it pertains to issues of righteousness and holiness.Something That Must Be Understood
There are some difficult passages to understand within the bible. However, to understand them correctly, we must remember that God was the only entity that was to be consulted for direction of the people. For example, we must keep in mind that God didn't allow the Urim and Thummim (Ex. 28:30) to speak or tell the Priest anything on it's own, and nether did they look to it without looking first to God and following his direction regarding the stones. When Saul did this, he was punished for his actions(see 1Samuel 28) This was to be a major difference between the people of God and pagans. In addition, we must also clarify that the "glory" that the heavens declare (Jer. 23:24, Ps. 19:1) is a teleological or creative glory of the Lord. The created order of the universe and it's precision speaks to both the existence and the magnificent greatness of the Lord, not some mystical or meta-spiritual direction or path that we are to enjoin, entertain or follow.
Within the word, it was the heathen nations, and peoples that did not know God that relied upon the stars, astrology and secret knowledge called "gnosis" (secret or hidden knowledge) for direction and understanding of the universe and of God. Teachings of meta-spiritual laws, practiced and developed within past generations, exist today wrapped up in principles such as "speak it into existence", "the laws of attraction", "the laws of prosperity" " the laws of wealth" and includes other practices such as speaking to one's wallet until it is filled with money. These meta-spiritual and gnostic principles and concepts ARE NOT biblical laws nor are they biblical principles. In fact many of these so called laws fly directly in the face of biblical principles and scriptural demands. One very popular pastor from the Chicago area recently stated on his 30 minute commercial that if a person really understood the word of faith as he was teaching it, and began to use it, the person would be "a millionaire in a month" Of course, all one had to do was buy his current series to learn how to get that million. These are ridiculous notions. This is simply "snake-oil", sold by television carnies, putting on a traveling show filled with bogus promises to attract whatever dollars that they can from the masses of needy people.
Is Mar Elijah Jordan An Astrologer?
Another question that came up, actually at the direction of Pimpoliscious himself, regarded Jordan's use of astrology within his prophetic practice...In this, Jordan did two things. First, he denied that he was an astrologer and claimed that he didn't know when and how people thought he used astrology. However, take a look at this video and it will be clear that Jordan himself makes the statements regarding his use and understanding of astrology. His answer to the panel was a complete fabrication. Take a look:
4:11-9 Teaching with Master Prophet E. Bernard Jordan
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One can clearly see, that Jordan not only associates astrology with biblical prophecy, but he has also developed a complete hermeneutic to justify it. This is in clear violation of the scriptures:
Deut. 18:9-14 ~ 9-When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. 10-There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times or an enchanter, or a witch, 11-Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 12-For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. 13-Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. 14-For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
Astrology is not neither has it ever been a biblical practice. Consulting stars is not and was not, neither has it ever been a way that people were told to consult the God of the universe. The names attributed to Barnabas and Paul were names given to them by PAGAN GREEKS who practiced idolatry, NOT by God himself. God didn't change Paul's name to Mercurius, neither did God call Barnabas Jupiter. Men did that.
Acts 14:12 ~ "And ***they*** called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker."
Redefining False Prophet
A second thing that Jordan, with very little scriptural resistance IF ANY, was redefine the term "false prophet" to mean anyone who delivers a word who's life wasn't centered in Christ. Jordan even stated that it was impossible for a Christian believer to be a "false prophet" no matter what. Aside from the fact that this is a totally biblicaly illiterate rendering of what false prophet means it is also yet another fabrication. May that is due to the fact that Jordan regularly prophesies falsely both on his show and on the Al Sharpton radio program almost weekly.
To clarify, SAINTS don't look to anyone who is not centered in Christ for information into spiritual things anyway. Secondly, anyone speaking presumptuously, falsely or delivering false or inaccurate information was considered a "false prophet". The "false" of the false prophet was based on the content of what was said, not because of their supposed relationship to or within the natural body of believers.
Deut. 18: 20-22 ~ "20-But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21-And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22-When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
The prophet speaking as inspired by God was never wrong and although he may have delivered conditional prophecies, such as the one Jonah delivered to Nineveh, was never ashamed or embarrassed by the word not coming to pass, because it was IMPOSSIBLE for God to lie.
Numbers 23:19 ~ "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"
Heb. 6:18 ~"That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:"
TO further debunk Jordan's atrocious presentation of esotericism, in Jeremiah, Hananiah delivered a false prophecy causing Israel to believe in a lie. Hananiah was in the school of the prophets, therefore he was associated with them that called upon the name of the Lord. However, his false words sealed the fate of Israel at the hands of their enemies and also cost him his life.
Jeremiah 28:15 ~ "Then said the prophet Jeremiah unto Hananiah the prophet, Hear now, Hananiah; The LORD hath not sent thee; but thou makest this people to trust in a lie."
The "Master" Prophet
Called by a self ascribed and made up title, "master prophet" Jordan also declared that he is a "master" because he has spent well over the 10,000 hours necessary to "master" his office. Surprisingly, the panel guests were anxious to accept that rendering claiming that their education had qualified them to be considered "masters" at what they do. After all, most of them had to get their "Masters Degree" before their Doctorates, so that made sense...
HARDLY!!! What he actually did was follow in the line of ANE (Ancient Near Eastern) mysticism in ascribing the term "master" to himself. Under ANE systems and terms. The word "Adoni" was translated as the word master. It was also translated as "my Lord" at times. nonetheless, the context of the word was primarily a declaration of supreme authority and superiority. Here is it's etymology:
Master ~ O.E. mægester "one having control or authority," from L. magister "chief, head, director, teacher" (cf. O.Fr. maistre, Fr. maître, It. maestro, Ger. Meister), influenced in M.E. by O.Fr. maistre, from L. magister, contrastive adj. from magis (adv.) "more," itself a comp. of magnus "great." Meaning "original of a recording" is from 1904. In academic senses (from M.L. magister) it is attested from late 14c., originally a degree conveying authority to teach in the universities. The verb is attested from early 13c.
In the sense that it is used before the word prophet it is descriptive of the prophecy and is therefore an adjective. This is what the word "master" means when used as an adjective to describe prophet:
~ dominant, chief or principal:(such as a master list) directing or controlling: (such as a master switch) of or pertaining to a master (from which copies are made: master film; master matrix; master record; master tape) dominating or predominant; eminently skilled: (a master diplomat; a master pianist) being a master carrying on one's trade independently, rather than a worker employed by another ~
First, of all 10,000 hours of ANYTHING has nothing to do with being a "master" in this sense. Being a "master" with God cannot be gained by time or money. Large crowds won't provide it either. Secondly noone one is a "master" of anything spiritual or that pertains to God because God himself is dominate and not man or men. We have been given GIFTS that do not belong to us that we are to use responsibly and skillfully.
The sad part is that noone
I haven't even touched on his requirement saying that anyone who receives from God must have some money to pay in return. This was BLATANT apostasy hailed as some great spiritual truth. These are the PROFITS...Now, where where are the real men and women of God?
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