Reflecting on the statements of Bishop Talbert Swan in THIS POST as he addressed a particular Elder that had a sharp critique of his message, brought my mind back 180 to the issue of church related abuse and advocacy for survivors of such abuse.
The Anatomy Of Abuse
Abuse has a plot, or pathway that must be undertaken. That plot exists regardless of the type of abuse. Both sexual or nonsexual abuse follow similar paths...The perpetrator seeks to exalt themselves, while simultaneously demeaning his victim and others that could be positioned to assist. Abuse is often interpreted initially as bullying, and certainly may have elements of bullying, but goes a step further into consistent derision of character and downgrading the character, intellect and personal ability of the subject.
Then...there is the theme of abuse which is delivered on the basis of multiple lies...the lie is that the perpetrator has great power, insight and authority, and that authority is inescapable and is the final word on the issue. The lie that, as the Borg say, "resistance is futile"..."no one will believe you"...then the lie of lack of self sufficiency, that the victim can not make it on their own and their efforts are not enough to create self sustainability.
Then, within the structure of abuse, the abuser must capture and diminish the psychological strength of the victim. The abuser wishes to live rent free in the mind of their victim. The goal is to create a false sense of connection that the abuser then uses to deprive the victim of any sense of value or self sustainability. Most individuals that have suffered abuse and abusive behavior struggle with feelings of adequacy(self esteem), anxiety and trust. This is by design of the abuser, because the abuser wants his victims to "trust" him above everyone else and feel as if they can't make it on their own or at the very least without the approval of the victimizer.
Church Related Abuse?
Yes, this type of abuse is solidly within the church. The problem is that most individuals abused can't discern their abuse, nor decipher the actions of their abuser in many cases. Many tend to write abusive behavior off to "personal preference". What makes this even more pervasive, is that many abusers within the church are persons of otherwise good behavior and personability, but have learned abusive behaviors from others and have come to emulate the abusive behavior to which they were exposed. They implement the abusive behavior that they were taught, which in most cases was affirmed to them as the "right way" to do things.
According to current studies, 95% of all abusers use psychological tactics to perpetrate their abuse and their victims are 3.5 times more likely to abuse others in a similar manner. ~ NIH 2019
UPDATE: See Vicki Yohe interview at end of article
Prov. 1:24-32 ~ 24 - Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; 25-But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: 26-I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; 27- When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. 28-Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: 29-For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD: 30-They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. 31-Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. 32-For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
David E (EVERYTHING BUT GOD) Taylor is once again experiencing a calamity, a judgment of epic proportions, one which I do not think he will be able to escape from this time.
For those who don't know...complete with claims to be "Jesus best friend" an "Apostle" and to have God appearing on his stages, and a host of other idiotic ramblings, David E Taylor puts the "CHAR" in CHARLATAN...He is one of the top ENEMIES of God, with an alleged ministry full of inconsistencies, sin, opulence, control, abuse and everything that should not and will not enter the Kingdom of God.
His reputation and lack of integrity precedes him greatly...and believe me, I am not writing this out of some type of "joy" or gladness, but I am so very happy for all of those who have been victimized by this man, and have lived to see God's justice begin to take over in this case...
The current accusations are as follows:
"Taylor and Brannon, according to the indictment, compelled their victims to work at their call centers and to work for Taylor as his “armor bearers.” Armor bearers were Taylors’s personal servants who fulfilled Taylor’s demands around the clock. Taylor and Brannon controlled every aspect of the daily living of their victims. Victims slept in the call center facility or in a “ministry” house, and Taylor and Brannon did not permit them to leave without permission. Taylor demanded that his Armor Bearers transport women from ministry houses, airports, and other locations to Taylor’s location and ensured the women transported to Taylor took Plan B emergency contraceptives.
In addition, according to the indictment, Taylor and Brannon required victims to work in the call centers long hours without pay or perform other services for Taylor. Taylor set unobtainable daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly monetary donation goals for victims working in the call centers and required victims to follow the orders he created without question. If victims disobeyed an order or failed to reach his monetary goals, Taylor and Brannon punished the victims with public humiliation, additional work, food and shelter restrictions, psychological abuse, forced repentance, sleep deprivation, physical assaults, and threats of divine judgment in the form of sickness, accidents, and eternal damnation.
KOGGC/JMMI received millions of dollars in donations each year through its call centers. Taylor and Brannon used much of the money to purchase luxury properties, luxury vehicles, and sporting equipment such as a boat, jet skis, and ATVs. In total, Taylor received approximately $50 million in donations since 2014."
At the end of the day, we can be thankful that the Lord is on the side of the righteousness and though we be slain, the ultimate hand of God's justice will be shown, both now and in eternity. All these "giants" are nothing but men to be defeated and brought down before God. I say, let God be God because he knows how to do things much better than we ever could. Sisera has his day and when that comes...well, let's just say, he won't be back!
Is your church a safe church? Do your current procedures and practices facilitate abuse? Are you a Pastor and or ministry leader that wishes to create a truly safe environment and let your staff and members know that you are serious about creating a place where God is glorified by ministry stewardship and accountability?
Introducing the new I Am My Brother's Keeper Safe Church Program. The Safe Church Program is a program designed to inform members and visitors that your ministry is concerned about abuse enough to take steps to safeguard the environment.
FACT: According to a 2019 study, 10% of churchgoers stop going to church because they feel that sexual misconduct is not taken seriously or because they did not feel safe or insulated from sexual misconduct. ~ Christian Post 5/2019
A "Safe Church Certification" involves all aspects of the church's interpersonal relationships and ministry operations. In a "Safe Church Certified" church, members and visitors can rest assured that best practices are being implored to create the best possible environment for all individuals from cradle up.
Steps To Safe Church Certification
Rendition Of Cert.
1- Make the call. (800)730-2990 x802 and ask for a FREE Safe Church Consultation
2- Open your church to evaluation by a Safe Church Councilor
3- Receive the results of the evaluation with recommended changes.
4- Implement the changes or ministry updates within 60 days
5- Receive your "Safe Church Certification" to display within your church or congregation. (updated annually)
6- Receive a FREE Safe Church Quarterly Newsletter designed to provide valuable insights into church related sexual abuse and helpful information on how to reach, minister to, and restore them that have been abused and cause the ministry to make disciples even through pain and turmoil within society.
The best way to prevent abuse, is to PREVENT ABUSE! This is YOUR opportunity to show your congregation, visitors and community how serious you take the creation of an abuse free environment. Individuals who know that your church has received a "Safe Church Certification" are even more confident that your ministry takes the health and wellbeing of its members and visitors with the utmost sincerity and respect.
All abuse is devastating. Church related abuse is especially excruciating due to the fact that not only have boundaries been crossed through the act of abuse, but very nature of the abuse itself undermines confidence and understandings regarding the nature of God.
Are you a sexual abuse survivor, or do you know of someone walking through this path? Please know that there is HOPE and HELP. Many have found that sharing their story is therapeutic. We would like to hear how you survived.
Please complete this confidential contact form at I Am My Brother's Keeper Christian Advocacy Council. If necessary and if requested someone will reach out to you for prayer and as always a confidential interaction.
Remember...THERE IS A BALM IN GILEAD! PLEASE CLICK THE PICTURE
I would like to say, that it is on record that this man confessed to his deeds, saying that he didn't know what he did was wrong. Although this is hardly believable, it does show the extent and depth to which demons and devils in pulpits across the land will go to perpetuate their sexual perversion and deceive the masses.
My church, COGIC, has come a long way in requiring Pastor's & various ministerial staff to obtain sexual harassment training and background checks, but still has miles yet to go as it pertains to the creation of a truly Safe Church environment as promoted by I Am My Brother's Keeper Christian Advocacy Council, this blog and my personal work in ministry within this church.
To Date The Church Of God In Christ Has NO VICTIM'S ADVOCACY PROGRAM OR PLAN!
Hearing the experience of Ms. Guyton will open your eyes to the urgency of greater accountability within our church and the Christian church in general, and create a greater sense of urgency for victims advocacy. In my opinion, the predatory crimes of these pulpit criminals is a pandemic of epic proportions within our church and must be addressed.
Although this is election year, and the church is currently "in prayer" for the success of our Holy Convocation, I sincerely believe that GOD is speaking clearly that we must better protect and serve his little ones and the innocent and those who have suffered amongst us. I really don't care for church politics, especially when I see none willing to make a public and open stand for the innocent and most vulnerable and those who have suffered abuse at the hands of predators that we have licensed at one time or another.
YES...we're back at it and we're making as much noise as we can.
This post features part 1 and 2 of a recent interview done with Queen GerVaise. May the lord grant you strength and courage to stand along with us and a growing number across the country is saying, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and WE MUST SERVE THE HURTING!
Most of our readers know that this blog and its contents are strongly positioned against clergy and church related sexual abuse and SINS. If you are new and don't know the issues, or are unaware of the issues, please feel free to click HERE to read some of the past articles I have written over the years and from time to time.
Let me be clear, my issues are not with church transitions, such as the fiasco currently rumbling within the Grand Ole Church as it pertains to the church of deceased Bishop Hutchins and General Board Member Brandon Porter...in short, other than the spiritual welfare and stability of all them involved, I COULD REALLY CARE LESS. I don't care who takes over or who does what, wins what, is appointed to what, or what the national church is doing during the election process either. None of those issues "float my boat", although I stop short of saying that any of those issues are unimportant. They are important, just not to me and this blog...and I don't care to waste my or your time on those issues, at least, not at this point.
What Is A Matter Of Importance???
What matters to me is how churches prevent, handle, and respond to clergy and church related abuse and sexual abuse, and even church related crimes such as those alleged by a former COGIC Pastor (notice, most are always known as "former" when their garbage comes out) Bobby C. Smith whose case will finally hit open air next week. If you didn't know about this case, it is a matter of PUBLIC INFORMATION, here is the video in summary on this case from one of the only current voices I respect exposing these devils. You know him as "Dawson Speaks"
I mean this is SAD!!! Dawson said it all, but after digesting that complete and utter FOOLISHNESS and pathetic self exalted and out of control FREAK-COONERY, I guess maybe we can get back to the point of this article....My Lord, that garbage is like getting stuck in a quick-sand tar pit....
A Second Pandemic?
As a result of the primary pandemic of covid-19, there was a second pandemic of child and female abuse as well. There are a growing number of studies and research being conducted on it but it is notable that sexual abuse and abuse in general within society rose to all time high levels.
"By the end of March, with much of the country under lockdown, there was a 22% increase in monthly calls from people younger than 18, and half of all incoming contacts were from minors. That's a first in RAINN's history, Camille Cooper, the organization's vice president of public policy, tells NPR.
Of those young people who contacted the hotline in March, 67% identified their perpetrator as a family member and 79% said they were currently living with that perpetrator. In 1 out of 5 cases where the minor was living with their abuser, RAINN assisted the minor in immediately contacting police.
"As a result of looking at the information that we had from those sessions, it was clear that the abuse was escalating in both frequency and severity," Cooper says. "So a lot of the kids that were coming to the hotline were feeling pretty vulnerable and traumatized. And it was a direct result of COVID-19, because they were quarantined with their abuser. The abuser was now abusing them on a daily basis."
According to the United Nations, violence against women during lockdowns was notable all around the world:
"Across the 13 countries surveyed, 2 in 3 women report that they or a woman they know has experienced violence at some point in their lifetime. Nearly 1 in 2 report direct or indirect experiences of violence since the start of the pandemic.
The most common form is verbal abuse (50%), followed by sexual harassment (40%), physical abuse (36%), denial of basic needs (35%) and denial of means of communication (30%). Seven in 10 women surveyed believe violence against women is common in their community.
Most women believe that COVID has made things worse. Nearly 7 in 10 women think domestic violence has increased during the pandemic, and 3 in 5 think sexual harassment in public has increased. In many cases, heightened demand for shelters and other forms of support has remained unmet due to operational constraints.
For Romela Islam, the abuse by her husband began long before COVID-19. But it was not until December 2020 that she and her 4-year-old daughter were able to escape. Islam found refuge at a women’s shelter, and the two have begun to build a new life. Reduced shelter capacity, however, means many women have not had this same chance."
While much of this abuse and violence took place within the context of families and isolated groups, the church, even though most went online for services and just threw away any biblical and traditional design for worship for fear of infection or running afoul of the socialist oriented governmental fearmongering (fyi: New Bethel COGIC NEVER closed)..in all of that, sexual abuse still managed to increase, wives and children still managed to be abused, raped and everything else that displays the sin-sickness of society.
The question is, how did the church expect to escape the same results or similar increases in ungodly behavior since in nearly every category, including this one, the church mimics society?
Is It A Cover-up Or Just Plain Old Silence?
Since my first article in 2007, which dealt with the absolute embarrassing Freak-Coonery of Junaita Bynum (1 or 2 or whomever she claims to be at present) and Mr. Weeks, with the exception of Dawson, since the disappearance of Eder DL Foster of Witness Freedom Ministries who also started the "Report COGIC Abuse" website (which is no longer a website although information on Elder DL and his actions can be found HERE,) external reports of sexual abuse and clergy misconduct (SIN) that have taken place within COGIC led or affiliated churches have virtually disappeared and vanished from the internet. This is amazing!
Are we to imagine that the church, our church in particularly, which had a case of sexual abuse and pastoral degeneracy on the scene almost every month for a time, is somehow an anomaly and completely free of sexual abuse, pastoral misconduct and other sins? Maybe its a miracle that a church that had, over many years, been confronted with Pastoral sins and abuse, and either excused themselves from more than a few sexual abuse cases, suddenly was healed overnight and now nothing is wrong and everyone healed and made whole???
NO! We know better. If we don't we should. There is simply a tighter lid on things. People are being instructed to be silent and victims still yet being shamed when information is brought forth, so much until others fear to say anything. Fact is that sinful behaviors still and yet exist.
I never have solicited anyone to contact me or I Am My Brother's Keeper Christian Advocacy Council with stories just to have a story. I have never attempted to take my articles to any news organizations or condense contents into a best selling book...although one or two regarding other subjects are on the way...In fact, I have NEVER taken a payment or promise of position for silence on issues or subject matter pertaining to COGIC or any other church, pastor, preacher, teacher or organization...and further will NEVER be engaged in such.
This is why it is disturbing that if persons such as myself and others don't drive issues, or bring them up in public, you'll not see issues going anywhere. You'll see business as usual continue as if nothing is wrong.
Current Actions
Believe me, I love our Presiding Bishop J Drew Sheard. He is a very encouraging friend of this ministry and me personally. However, I DID NOT fail to send him a victim's advocacy proposal by parcel delivery shortly after he was inaugurated as our Chief Apostle. As of this writing, I cannot say that I have heard from him regarding my proposal, the information I sent or any other policy regarding this issue, however I cannot say that he is not concerned about the issue as well...I do know this...he is one of the ONLY Bishops in this church that extended his ministry to me, without reservation, when I called upon him some years back regarding unrelated issues. However, the Presiding Bishop is not the King of this church and this is not a "totalitarian church. There are many others, that are aware of these efforts who haven't lifted a hand or finger to assist, promote or develop plans on the issue. I am confident that if this church moves in this area, it will be under his leadership and direction and will move many years into the future to both heal victims and stop church related abuse.
What Can YOUR Church Do?
Since our initial efforts, the Grand Ole Church has implemented background checks and sexual harassment training and even adopted an impromptu (at that time) written sexual harassment policy (as I found out during a deposition in a pastoral case) While those are at least positive things, there is much more that can and should be done. The good news is that each church does not have to wait for the national church to take positive steps to address the issues. Every Pastoral leader in the country can undertake agenda to make their church a truly SAFE CHURCH environment that will serve and advocate for survivors of sexual abuse.
First, I contend and always have believed that the church must first make themselves accountable to teach, and train each congregations on the issue and issues involved. It goes without saying that folk need to be SAVED first, but even in that, many people have been taught wrong views on church leadership, marriage and interaction within the church. For example, a popular bishop in Detroit once taught that a husband and wife shouldn't even kiss, to keep from giving rise to "the flesh". Now, that is a ridiculous sentiment, but how many people may have actually believed and adopted that garbage into their marriages? And how many marriages were exposed to FREAK-COONERY in part because of bad and unwholesome teaching???
Secondly, while this may be embarrassing to some, as a matter of Christian education we cannot function within modern society without knowing this information and the problem. The church must require pastoral and ministry training on issues of sexual abuse on an ongoing basis, and consistently teach leaders and lay-members how to diminish the environmental potential within each church for such sins to occur. Something as simple as rotating ministry leaders, especially youth leaders, every 6 to 12 months could not only save children from abuse but also save ministries from public embarrassment. Third, setting up internal councils of review and implementing a national victims advocacy (NOT PERP) policy, and victim focused resolution teams, could allow the church to actually minister to her most venerable and those healing from these sort of sins.
There is a lot more that we must do than have church in every major city, raise money, spend money at hotels, play music and shop, IF our mission and goal is to be like Jesus and HEAL & SAVE The Lost!
This is an issue that is not important until it is you or someone you know at the center of abuse. That is why it is good to lay a foundation now. To set things in order and to do RIGHT before the Lord. No matter how many singers we have, NO SONG washes away the fear, shame and utter helplessness of sexual abuse and church related abuse and misconduct.
Quick Word: Many of you who have experienced this type of abuse or grooming are too embarrassed to speak up because you don't know how you allowed this to happen. I want you to know, no matter how it happened, it was wrong then and it is wrong now and no matter what, YOU need healing and GOD has healing for you. No minister or church personnel was every authorized by God to abuse and or take advantage of you or your family in any way. There is strength, help, hope and healing and a BALM in GILEAD. Call today (800)730-2990 ext: 802
I have decided to make this review a stand alone post as opposed to lumping it in with the initial post found HERE.
I hope that the ladies attempting to tell their stories find peace and deliverance and I hope that Kelly repents, find Jesus and ultimately avoids the hell that is currently his plight.
For all those enablers, remember your day of judgement is upon you as well. You are equally as guilty as Kelly by your silence and refusal to hold this man accountable for his actions. Gospel personality or not. You'll give an answer!
“If I could change anything, I would definitely have had a father around. My father. I would definitely say it affected me deeply as a young man, coming up. Who doesn't want a father? Those are the beginnings, and those are what can dictate the roads you choose in life, and choosing them well. And it affected me.” ~ R Kelly, GQ Magazine 2016 "The Confessions of R Kelly"
FIRST, I would like to say that this article was very difficult for me to accomplish. It took a lot of time and research and delving into the topic was similar to diving into a pool of feces! I don't take this issue to be the least bit humorous, neither do I take the implications and results of any of it lightly. In fact, I don;t know if I would have garnered the inspiration to delve in so deeply if it weren't for R Kelly showing up in the comments section of this blog for some reason. It goes like this:
Some months ago, during the normal course of examining the damage and praying for restoration from the perversions of Larry Nassar, the former MSU and Olympic Team physician who was recently convicted for sexually victimizing over 100 young ladies trusted to his care over a period of nearly 20 years, I was intrigued by the commentary of one R Kelly, who seemed more eager to support Nassar, while condemning the testimony of the women, going so far as to argue that God was responsible for and endorsed rape and pedophilia.
After engaging his comments and twisted anti-God logic for some time in the comments section of posts both HERE and HERE, I thought, "Is this the "real" R Kelly?"...I thought, "Is this the one who has sang some of the most nasty songs in the universe, been accused of pedophilia and lusting after underage girls for nearly as long as I can remember, been accused of currently maintaining a sex cult run by he and various associates in or at one and possibly both of his Atlanta residents?"... I thought, "Is this the same fella who has stood on stage with Kirk Franklin, professing himself to have been "saved", sometime after allegedly molesting his own goddaughter, on a sleazy , perverted video tape in which he claimed simply, (as he didn't testify, but said publicly) "That ain't me" and was let off the hook by an indecisive jury?"... I mean the list goes on and on regarding this fella and I began to question everything he had argued in light of his alleged history.
>>>>>Disclaimer: To be clear, the artist known as R Kelly has NEVER been convicted of a sex crime by a court or a jury. Although there is proof and plenty of speculation that he has negotiated and settled claims before they were lawsuits and privately settled lawsuits before they were made public, and paid off many of his alleged victims, demanding that they sign nondisclosure agreements, NONE of them have ever endured the criminal justice system to a conviction. The information regarding R Kelly and his alleged actions referenced on this blog are from commonly known sources circulating certain information regarding R Kelly's alleged perversions. <<<<<
Well, after inquiry, the person at least "proclaiming" to be Robert Sylvester Kelly, confirmed as much by posting with his alleged "real" google profile and that's when all the "fun" began and I believe the end of an era was marked.
R Kelly, Sexual Abuse, The Church & The Real Story Behind It All
What I find interesting is that Kelly's ramblings on this blog, sought to prove that God was responsible for evil and most specifically sexual evil. While most people who deny God's existence claim this (go figure? ~ alas arguing the frailty of humanity because if there is no God then something else must be responsible for it), in light of the accusations and alleged lifestyle of Kelly, I found it somewhat hard to believe that he was being real...I mean, no matter what one thinks of God, he has in no wise endorsed holding women in a house, using them as sex slaves, appointing persons to "monitor" their every move and video tape them and pass the tapes around to other perverted friends for their use and enjoyment...All of these things are alleged, not by church people, but by some of R Kelly's most close assistants and former assistants. These and more are just some of the things that Kelly is alleged to have done.
Now, Kelly himself claims to be "a God fearing man". In his latest statements on the issue since the heat has been turned up, he says this repeatedly. However, in light of the evidence, I believe it is only fair to ask, which God does he fear? Does he fear the god of this world whom Jesus calls mammon? Or does he fear the God of the bible?
For over two decades there have been accusations regarding Kelly. From his marriage to the late singer known as Aaliyah when she was 15 and he was 27, to more recent allegations by former sex-slave currently known as Jerhonda Pace who claims that Kelly groomed her since age 14 to not only be sexually intimate with him on demand, but also has a domineering, controlling and even physically threatening personality that he uses to get what he wants. (I will discuss this a little later in the article)
With that said, there are a number of issues. Some I will raise in this article, that I believe should be examined if we are to make sense of the complete story. I will examine R. Kelly and his story. I will examine the claims of some of the accusers, I will examine the position, silence and even endorsement of this man among some of the of the church leadership and will conclude with my own elucidation on the issues of sexual abuse, misconduct and sexual perversion.
The Kelly Self Portrait & Expose'
As stated, I must admit that the Kelly story has been one of the more fascinating ones that I have engaged. In him I see a spirit of baalism that has been around for centuries, but that continues to rise in various forms, but appears to be in full bloom within Kelly.
As I examined the issues further, I came across an article that Kelly had done with GQ Magazine in 2016 entitled "The Confessions of R Kelly" which was probably one of the most enlightening reads full of information on the man himself.
In the article, the writer points out a memoir that R Kelly produced in 2012 called "Soulacoaster, The Diary of Me" in which Kelly revealed that sexual abuse had taken place in his life at an early age. It seems that in this work, R Kelly was very forthcoming about the sexual abuse and was willing to talk about it in the interview as well. Now, the result of this was that Kelly was taking the place of the victimized while simultaneously saying nothing about those whom he has allegedly or otherwise victimized.
According to outside sources, it seems that Kelly, for whatever reason, gained an affinity compulsion for lust for underaged girls as a sexual target and has an insatiable libido towards them. Here is what a fella named Demetrius Smith claimed as recorded by a website named WhatWeSee.com:
Demetrius Smith, Kelly’s longtime friend and personal assistant, publishes a memoir, The Man Behind the Man, in which he writes that: “Underage girls had proven to be [Kelly’s] weakness. He was obsessed. Sickly addicted.” ~ "If 10% of this is true R Kelly is a Monster. WhatWeSeee.com 10/11/2015
So Kelly's life experience, as recorded by him, displays that he himself was abused at an early age. We will examine that below. In addition, reports are abundant that others, specifically underaged teen girls, have allegedly been abused by him as well.
Kelly has gone to trial, and was acquitted over the issue. He has also allegedly settled many claims of his sexual inappropriate acts with non-disclosure agreements as we will note, and yet goes on claiming that everyone is lieing on him. Nevertheless, there appears to be a link to early childhood sexual activity, fatherlessness, and Kelly's alleged resultant perversions in many cases that exist and continue to garner the public's attention.
The Kelly Hero
From all accounts, in his Soulacoaster memoir, Kelly is the hero. He is the one who was victimized, but overcame it all to become rich and famous. He was a no reading, hard-knox educated, street performer, rejected by everyone, but who found his niche in the "souls" of those listening to his lyrical content. According to Kelly, he has near visionary experiences in nearly everything including his own fame.
As stated previously, what is somewhat of a twist is that Kelly however, points to an unnamed female, whom he later reveals as a "family member" (during the interview), who abused him sexually from age 8 until about age 15 when he began to date girls outside of the family. What is further interesting is that it seems that Kelly so much as acknowledges that pedophilia effects children negatively and will, in his opinion, create a person who is not only out of control sexually, but who also could perpetuate sexual evil on others.
Here is an excerpt from the interview specifically dealing with the molestation that he faced:
Q: I believe a common reaction in such situations is to be angry about losing an innocence that shouldn't have been lost. Do you relate to that?
“Absolutely, yes. It teaches you to definitely be sexual earlier than you should have, than you're supposed to. You know, no different than putting a loaded gun in a kid's hand—he gonna grow up being a shooter, probably. I think it affects you tremendously when that happens at an early age. To be more hornier. Your hormones are up more than they would normally be. Mine was.”
Q: And do you think that set you on a path that you kept on?
“Yeah. In a lot of ways, absolutely. I think so.”
He then went on to say that sexual abuse is similar to a generational curse, but that he had become free from the effects of such a curse in his life although not venturing into how he may have gained his freedom:
Q: People are going to think: Well, if that passes down, why didn't it pass down to you?
“Well, you know, just like poverty—poverty was a generational curse in my family, too, but I decided that I'm gonna stop that curse. I'm not gonna be broke, like my mom was broke, my uncles were broke, my sisters didn't have money, my cousins on down. Generational curse doesn't mean that the curse can't be broken. Just like having no father, that's a generational curse. Which is why, when my kids were born, I was Bill Cosby in the house. You know, the good one. You know, let's be clear there: how we saw Bill Cosby when we were coming up.”
Q: So what did you have to do to break a generational curse? To make that not be you?
“Well, it's really not about breaking it. There's things that you don't want to do that you're not gonna do. It was just as simple as that. I want to be able to be a father to my kids, where I've never seen my father, but my kids can see me whenever they want, so that was broken. [He and his wife Andrea divorced in 2009, and in practice, for reasons he suggests are beyond his control, he rarely sees his three children.] The poverty part was broken. And I feel the child-molestation part, that definitely was broken. But of course you gonna be misunderstood because you R. Kelly, and the success and things get mixed up in the music, and people take the words you sing in your songs and try to pound that on your head and say, ‘Ahh! You did do it—look what you just wrote over here.’ ”
Kelly chalks up the "sexual abuse" and "sexual perversion" vibe that people get from him as a "misunderstanding" when it comes to deciphering or discerning his personality or who he is. At either rate, right on que, you guessed it, nothing is his fault, the blame always falls on others, which appears to be a consistent Kelly theme.
An "Alter Ego" & The Kelly Codes
“R. Kelly is the sweetest person you will ever want to meet,”... “But Robert is the devil.” Asante McGee BuzzFeed News 7/17/2017
Briefly, it occurred to me that there could be a split personality or an alter ego at work here. One of the escaped victims of the Kelly web was a lady named Asante McGee. In her statement above she seems to draw a line between R Kelly and "Robert"
Former background singer for Kelly, Lavelle Jones stated the following in a documentary interview about Kelly:
"R Kelly, man, he's conflicted, he's a spiritual man, but at the same time he's perverted...when you talk about the craft and the music he's a genius and somebody that any budding artist would love to be around, on the other hand, you seen some sides that were ugly, y'u-know the problems with the young women and he's very controlling. It's kinda conflicted, it's almost like a Jekyll and Hyde" ~ R Kelly, Sex & Videotapes 4/7/2018
Could Asante be making a point without saying as much? Could a former music associate who has been with him since the mid and early 90's have witnessed the actions of a person with dual personalities? Could R Kelly be experiencing some sort of weird personality split between a musician and a predator and sexual abuser? Or is the "code" of Kelly right on target to throw individuals off?
For example, one of his accusers said that Kelly once gave her a cocktail that he had made while "in the kitchen". Evidently this drink knocked her out and put her to sleep. Later, he produced a project called "In The Kitchen" which spoke of performing multiple sexual perversions and acts upon a woman while in the kitchen.
There are a lot of codes and hidden messages in Kelly's work. Some of his former associates recognize messages that he sends in texts through various codes and ways of expressions that only they would be familiar with. Only hard and fast adherents to his life's story would understand some of the codes and messages that he sends and delivers.
One such individual is former slave and radio personality and DJ Kitti Jones. Having been infatuated and swept off her feet by Kelly (who has also admitted that he is in love with love itself, meaning that he likes all the things poured into the pursuit of love and the initial feelings of love, as opposed to a committed relationship based on love) Jones, who once thought herself to be THE woman for Kelly, is telling her story of liberation and abuse, claiming that Kelly not only lavished her with his version of love, but also placed restrictions on her, starved her, slapped her, mentally abused and sexually abused and took advantage of her and continues to seek opportunities to mentally manipulate her through various coded messages that she has heard in tweets by the singer and in other venues.
The McDonald's Code
Such codes are references to McDonalds. Yes, the burger and fast food chain.
Although there is more to the story than I will outline here, it seems that Kelly loved McDonalds from an early age for whatever reason. Current speculation suggests that McDonalds is the place where Kelly meets prospective underaged victims.
For example until in the early 2000's he was sued at least twice by the families of 2 under aged girls claiming that R Kelly began his path of seduction and molestation at McDonalds. From all indication these suits were settled out of court and therefore no charges were ever levied. A specific instance is the case Patrice Jones. Jones was 16 years old when she met Kelly at the "Rock n Roll" McDonalds in Chicago after her HS Prom.
Jones claimed that the singer seduced her, had sex with her multiple times, got her pregnant, coerced her into having an abortion, and allegedly did this knowing that she was underaged. According to reports Jones has had to sue Kelly 3 times over a period of years for breaking promises and continued aggression. Of course her initial claim, and seemingly all others were settled out of court for an undisclosed amount of money with a non-disclosure agreement arranged or approved through the Loggans Law Firm of Chicago, who allegedly had been dealing with settling claims, and extracting money from Kelly on behalf of victims since 1997.
Others claim that Kelly would go to the McDonalds and bring young girls back to the studio who would end up in sexually compromising situations if not flat out sex. A production engineer claims that Kelly, at one point, picked up some girls from McDonalds, brought them back to his home studio, made them strip down to their underwear and stand bent over the console for his "inspiration" on a certain song that dealt with feeling on a woman's booty. The engineer never witnessed Kelly touch either female however.
The Harem & Harem Keepers
What I found to be most fascinating, were the number of people who were willing participants in keeping the Kelly perversions in check and even training others on how to embrace his perversions which seemed to include digital anal penetration, oral sex and masturbation.
The graphic shows those who have allegedly been complicit for various aspects of the Kelly sexual victimization.
In addition, Kelly's legal team simply had been advising him to shut up and let them do the job he hired them to do. That's not bad advice from a lawyer, especially if it was a lawyer currently on the legal team. However, from all reports Kelly's lawyer, like many of the other associates above, recently quit. In addition, I am not sure if a lawyer is supposed to be or is commissioned to be party to potential criminal activity... Nevertheless, recently Kelly said this to the media regarding the resurfacing accusations and media buzz against him:
"My team has advised me that this is not a proper platform to express my emotions. I will not discuss details about these false allegations that have been made against me. I will say that I am infuriated, and I am heartbroken by the false claims against me. These accusations being perpetuated by the media is an attempt to distort my character and to destroy my legacy that I have worked so hard to build. These allegations have created a character of me that is not the truth of who I am nor what I am about. The women in my life are consenting adults and they [sic] with me on their free will. I am a God-fearing man, a son, a brother, and most importantly a father. The media has dissected and manipulated these false allegations to reach their own conclusions about me and what I do in my personal life. My focus has always been music and being in the music industry. At this time, my faith and my love for music are the only things that has not been affected. The devil is a liar. To whom much is given, from him much expected. To my fans, I love you all from the deepest part of me. I am nothing without you, my fans. Thank you very much for all your support. I am a God-fearing man and through God’s grace and mercy, I will survive."
While Kelly may be "God fearing" he made no impression that he knew or knows God in any way with his commentary on this blog. In fact, IF the commentary was from Robert Sylvester Kelly as I asked the writer to confirm, he doesn't believe in any god but himself. If it is that he is "afraid" of himself, believe me, we are too!!!!
The Nondisclosure Agreement
Jerhonda Pace was a young lady age 15 when she met R Kelly even advocating for him during his 2008 trial. According to her she began to have sex with Kelly at approximately age 16 in 2009 sometime after he was acquitted. Similar to Kitti Jones, Jerhonda was pursued hotly by Kelly, sexually and physically abused, mentally manipulated, and in every manner demeaned. Similar to Kitti, she was forced to "please daddy", videotaped during sexual activity, forced to engage in lesbian sexual activity and "menage a trois" or group sex activities, kept away from her family, starved, restricted on who she could contact and when, and manipulated into believing that she was going to be THE special lady in Kelly's life.
After her escape, Kelly eventually delivered an agreement to her demanding her allegiance through terms of a non-disclosure agreement. In essence it was a hush settlement for approximately $5,000 per month. All was well until time began to deal with Jerhonda's thoughts and memories, and Kelly began to miss payments under the agreement.
In short, Jerhonda felt at that point that telling her story and liberating other women from Kelly's bondage was more important than holding to the terms of a hush agreement.
The #MeToo Movement #MuteRKelly Movement
The #MeToo Movement has empowered women and men who suffered sexual abuse to stand and tell their stories and seek justice through the criminal justice system. Of course Kelly has his own views of the effectiveness of the movement but has released a statement encouraging the work of the movement bu claiming it to be misdirected when it comes to him.
Still, Kelly reveals what he really thinks about such movement elsewhere. For example Kelly has a certain view as it pertains to the complete scathing of Dr. Bill Cosby in the media as a result of the media attention and pressure of the MeToo Movement. While the motivation behind the movement to "get Bill" may be questionable, Kelly, as he has done on this blog, goes even further in claiming that the women lack credibility in accusing a man of sexual abuse, at least in his mind. Kelly, in his own words, delivers something quite special as it pertains to the accusations of sexual abuse against Cosby. He says this:
“Well, my opinion on that is, I don't know what happened. I'm a fan of Bill Cosby's from the Bill Cosby show, of course—who's not?—and for me to give my opinion on something that I have no idea if it's true or not, all I can say is that it was a long time ago. And when I look on TV and I see the 70-, 80-, 90-year-old ladies talking about what happened when they were 17, 18, or 19, there's something strange about it. That's my opinion. It's just strange.”
Now, I don't know if the disparity is as great as he says it is, but he makes the point that he simply just does not believe the accusers because they accuse. I would say that's fair, but Kelly doesn't stop there. I believe he reveals something a little more strange in the next statement. He goes on to say:
“If God showed me that they were telling the truth, I would say that's wrong. I don't care if it was a zillion years ago. But God would have to do that, because God is the only one can show me that. No man can tell me that. No woman can tell me that. And when you wait 70 years, 50 years, 40 years, to say something that simple, it's strange. You know why I say that is because it happened to me, and it wasn't true.”
Kelly says in order to believe the accusations, he would need a direct revelation from God that the accusers were telling the truth. No matter the evidence or the testimony, Kelly would disregard that and appeal directly to God. Is Kelly questioning the authenticity of a woman's accusation or complaint as it pertains to sexual abuse? Is there a special disregard for such claims because they are women? I don't know, but if he hated that he certainly hates what else has arisen in the meantime.
While, the #MeToo Movement has and is making waves, there is another online movement launched and directed at Kelly himself. It is called the #MuteRKelly Movement.
Started by Kenyette Barnes, [who has declared that the movement will continue "until R Kelly's career is over"] and Oronike Odeleye, the movement was initially designed to shut down R Kelly concerts by discouraging ticket sales and headlining events. The theme of the movement is to draw attention and a direct response towards the alleged past and current abuses of Kelly,.demanding that the singer deal with the accusations and substance of his sexual abuse. Of course the method is to put a squeeze on the money and cut off sources of revenue so that Kelly will have to deal with the real issues.
Is that what should be done? Although there doesn't appear to be anything redemptive in that process as I will discuss, not having money to pay claims would force issues to be handled a different way. On the other hand, it could cause all accusers to go away if their claim is unauthentic and if they only wanted cash to begin with. We can wait and see just how effective this strategy may be but I would certainly agree that doing something to stop illegal and illicit activity obviously perpetuated by Kelly is a good thing.
The Gospel & Church Connection
Kelly has spread his musical "talents" all across the music industry. The so called Gospel Music Industry has been and is a ripe field of activity for secular singers. From the recent acceptance of Calvin Cordozar Broadus Jr. aka: Snoop Lion as another of its action gospel music heroes, it seems that sentiments along the lines that secular artists are welcome icons of the singing Gospel, are not soon to pass or go away.
Looking back, it was R Kelly that produced a host of songs sang by gospel and secular artists alike that the church embraced and even fully adopted. Nearly everyone remembers "Look to you" sang by the late Whitney Houston, which was an anthem some say dedicated to the Lord. Then there was the inspirational "I believe I can fly" a song that gained popularity from a children's movie called "Space Jam", also hailed as a gospel anthem at one point. Then there was Kirk Franklin's "Lean On Me" which was presented during a time when R. Kelly was actually on stage "pretending" to be repentant.
The presentation of Kelly to the Gospel audience took place right on top of his alleged sexual abuse and seduction of underaged and teenaged girls.
Men Under The Influence: The "Gospel" Musician
"No man can serve two masters" Mt. 6:24(a)
Not, only was and is R Kelly alleged to be a pervert, but he was also accused of beating up the former fellow Chicago native and secular/gospel musician, Rodney East, some years ago. (although Rodney denies it). The interesting thing about this is that East, who seems to be a very humble man, is supposedly Yolanda Adams primary musician or music director, who has also arranged music for a host of mainline gospel artists such as Marvin Sapp, Smokie Norful, Marvin Winans, CeCe Winans, Deitrick Haddon, and others.
However, at the same time East has helped, and from what I understand continues to help, R Kelly over the years by producing and arranging most of the nasty and perverted musical projects that have made him famous and given him the ability to remain center stage.
Some projects that East has worked on include songs such as the 2007 release "Double Up" which was a song done by Kelly and new gospel sensation, Calvin Cordozar Broadus Jr. (aka: Snoop Lion) which was exclusively about a "menage a trois" and even "menage a quarte" sexual activity. Then there was a song called "Ignition" on Kelly's 2003 Chocolate Factory project, which is said to have been one of his most extremely perverted songs that he has ever made. Incredibly, that song has been claimed as a song that bridged his success from a 90's generation to a current and more modern music generation.
What makes this worse is that nearly all of these so called "songs" were allegedly written at the height of the claim of sexual abuse against Kelly. What seems to have been a boon for East's wallet during the time and over the years, has been a near disaster or destruction of East's personal character, morality and integrity and nearly the complete destruction of his family through claims of adultery and sexual infidelity (or at least so is said)....It is a wonder how Kelly hooked up with East as East certainly does not appear to have the same demeanor or character as Kelly, unless it is that Kelly's "alter ego" is much more humble and docile than his personal character appears to be. Further information on East and the Kelly Beat Down Denial can be found HERE.
The Church's Desire For Relevance, But Failure To Redeem
The sad part is that NONE of those artists, be it for contract reasons or otherwise, caused Kelly to change one thing. Marvin Sapp recently had the audacity to speak as a guest on the Tom Joyner Morning Show, that everyone deserves a chance at redemption. Although I and we certainly agree,headlining on a CD has NO REDEMPTIVE VALUE! Further, where is the effort of Sapp or any of these other "stars" in an attempt to redeem Kelly?
As we've stated, it was the so called Gospel centered people that actually helped Kelly expand his perversions and enter into venues full of unsuspecting church people. His songs were and some still are sang on Sunday mornings all over the country. These same entertainers, some even claiming to be Bishops and Pastors are themselves GUILTY for perpetuating the sins of this man...NO...one cannot separate their singing from their lifestyle in this venue.
Get this, it was the church, who already deals with its fair share of people abused within the church, introducing an abuser and alleged sexual pervert to a greater and larger audience and and very much less sophisticated audience when it comes to issues such as this.
Now, I hate to sound demeaning, but the facts are the facts, the church is afraid to deal with it's own brand of sexual abuse and fallout as I have witnessed and experienced over the last 10 years since we have been doing victims advocacy through I Am My Brother's Keeper Christian Advocacy Council.
While most churches have no reporting or security mechanisms to guard against sexual abuse, most also have NO reporting mechanism or security of members through a Safe Church Certification that is offered by IMBKCAC. So, in my opinion, introducing Kelly and other secular artists that have made their living off of sexual perversion and are still yet committed to such is like pouring gasoline on an open fire and certainly no less than pouring salt into an open wound.
So it makes me wonder, is this further evidence that the church singers and music community, as well as the pastoral leaders that have allowed this within the confines of their buildings, lost their way? Why is it that we are no more salt and light, but seemingly no more than dirt mingled with mud?
Final Thoughts:
Without a doubt, we (as in the church) can do better, but I am very confident that WE WON'T! Too many conformists and too many weak leaders! Too many that fear their own shadows.
IS the movement to expose Kelly a good thing? I would say that holding people accountable for their evil deeds, when they are committed to their evil deeds, is always a good thing, however, I would be cautious of the aim. If the aim of any movement is to simply bankrupt a person, that is more akin to bullying than anything else. If the aim of the movement is to create restoration and a restorative environment, I believe that is a much better and more well centered aim or goal and one that should be ascribed to.
As I view it, R Kelly's money and wealth could better be used to fund restorative programs for sexual abuse victims and those who have been laid waste in the wake of these deadly acts, actions and activities.
In addition, it is evident that Kelly himself needs to be restored. He must undergo change in mind, conduct and sexual disposition. What he really needs is salvation because if even a portion of these things are true, he is not saved and is on an express trip to a certain and real hell. Can he be restored without him going bankrupt? Possibly, but we know that when the money get's funny, he wikll probably do anything and everything he can do to preserve it.
Our Sons & Daughters
What's more to me is that our daughters don't have a sense of identity. Some appear to be in grown women bodies, but evidently Kelly has found that too many of them have little girl, and even immature minds. One cannot convince me that a properly centered boy or girl could be so easily influenced by any personality to simply hop in a car and take off one's clothes under "normal" emotional and psychological functioning and reasoning.
While I must be careful here, as I certainly do not seek to blame the victim for their victimization, it must be said that our children and youth are growing up basing their identity on secularism and popularity and concepts of social acceptance rather than on firm moral principles and spiritual principles and values. This is a problem. Our young ladies should know their value prior to meeting a low life pimp who lies to them to simply use them for sex.
R Kellys would not exist if there were no people clamoring around him as if they are looking for something to fall off of a tree. As Kelly stated in a video interview, when the people start calling for a change, then he will change, until then, as long as venues are packed with people singing his praises, feeling on him, and otherwise seeking what they can receive from him, there is no need or incentive to change.
So we must do a much better job preparing and giving our young women a sense of purpose and identity and pointing them to the fact that GOD has created EVERY INDIVIDUAL with purpose, and that purpose is not, was not, and never will be, to be a sex slave, or sexually submissive thrill for a wealthy person singer, entertainer or otherwise. We must teach that integrity should never be compromised for money or popularity, that there are morals and values worth fighting for and taking a stand for.
In addition, we must do a much better job teaching our young men to value women and in particularly the women that God has given them through relationship and marriage. God has joined men and women together by his divine purpose. The only thing that was not good by itself out of all of God's creation was for man to be alone. Therefore the woman was created as a HELP that was MEET for HIM!!!
The woman was not a sexual object and was not meant to be dissected in lust for her body parts. She was to be honored and most importantly THEY were to seek God in and for all things. This generation of men have been led by lustful and self interested leaders both in and out of the church into a chasm of lust and degradation. We must replace this new self contrived sense of moral values and codes with substantive, biblically centered values and moral teachings, and teach these young men how to honor and value instead of how to lust and express their perversion.
Kelly has done deeds to destroy his own family and that is utterly sad. He is destroying his children with and through all of this. Just as faithlessness effected Kelly, as no father was there to make sure that he completed his education, that same faithlessness will and has also effected his children. One cannot engage in the type of activities that Kelly has allegedly engaged in and fully meet the responsibilities of being a good father.
In all, this lets me know that his daughter and his sons will need to be healed as well and more than likely have already formulated opinions on all of these issues. I believe that the church community, rather than worrying about a hit song, is better served to pray for these kids that God would save and use them for HIS glory and help them know that their life is purposeful as well.
Finally, we must teach again what it means to be virtuous. Some laugh and say "virginity" is not even in the English language anymore, and to them I say SHAME ON YOU!!! Teach the value of virginity until marriage. I have and my household has been blessed because of it. This year I will have raised to adults and neither of them have children or have had non-marital sexual relationships. What I know is that there is a value and blessing on following the path that God has laid out for us to follow. I am a witness, when that plan and path is violated, there is and will be a problem. Some problems cost your life and some problems take you over bridges that one may never be able to cross again.
In this fast time, it is interesting that the timeless values of chastity and realization of the sanctity of life and living are the most firm and steadfast values that can be found. It is upon that stone which stands upon the mountain of the truth of Jesus that we build.
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