In what was one of the most spiritually diverse interviews between African American leaders of the church, Lexi allowed the founder of modern Pentecostalism's Azusa Conferences, Bishop Carton Pearson a former pentecostal turned Universalist, to share the stage with Dr. Jamaal "Intellectual Orgasm" Bryant, Bishop George Bloomer and Rev. Dr. Van Gayton President Of Logos Bible College & Seminary and, you guessed it, there were some significant claims and statements made.
For those who don't know, or maybe just unaware, Bishop Pearson came through the ranks of the Church Of God In Christ to become one of the most charismatic television evangelists and ministers ever associated with Dr. Oral Roberts and The Oral Roberts University. He managed to woo almost the entire Pentecostal world with his recounting of holiness as taught by many of the early 1900's pentecostal church leaders along with his dynamic singing voice and inviting personality. All of this seems to have concluded and been brought to a screeching halt with his acceptance of the message of inclusion also known as the doctrine of universal reconciliation, which states that men and women everywhere and without repentance from sin or even the acknowledgement of Jesus as Lord or his atoning work, are already saved because Jesus paid for the sins of the whole world. Initially, Bishop Pearson reluctantly promoted this doctrine, along with it's many other caveats such as no hell or penalty for sin, lost almost all of his former ministry associates because of it and rocked the Charismatic wing of the church in the United States.
In recent times, he has not only been reflecting on what he believes, and it is heretical and anti-biblical to say the least, but he has also been reminiscing and telling seemingly all that he knows about the flaws of the church and those of leaders within the church. Believe me the Bishop espouses heresy and doctrines that the Christian church has rejected long ago, but one of the most interesting comments that Bishop Pearson made was that during the original Azusa Conference in 1990 he was under a tremendous amount of pressure from a particular unnamed minister who paid him $100,000 in installments to speak at the 1990 gathering.
During the interview Bishop Pearson about 4:47 seconds into Part 3 Clip 2, said the following:
This is the segment of that panel discussion:"I believe the gifts are without calling [meaning repentance]we got babies stretched across this country-preachers...I know "stuff". I had a man offer me $100,000 to preach on the Azusa stage. And I took the first $10,000...(pause-5 FULL second-pause); Not personally, I gave it to the people that handled the finances."
"When I went home that night...and this was way back...he said, do for me what you did for somebody else...and he gave me the first (inaudible) he said here's the first installment...shocked me...I went home that night and cried myself to sleep because I realize I had just prostituted the whole meeting. And I'm not talking about Jakes, because I didn't know Jakes at this time, it's somebody else. This was in 1990...and I just realized that they were pimping me and I was pimping them and I knew the Conference...the Conference was going in a direction that you don't know about what I had to deal with behind closed doors with ambitious preachers."
I became interest for a number of reasons. One of those reasons was because I am a preacher and know that not everyone is in ministry to really help their community or the body of believers. For some it's all about self-promotion. As I noted in "Preachers, What Will You Do For A Soul?" at times, even those considered to be the most straight line and fundamentally sound preachers can suffer from the disease of self-promotion, fame and self exaltation and loose sight of real ministry and the needs of the people and the demands and requirements of God. One of the key identifiers of this syndrome is when a leader refuses to listen to any one's council or for some grand spiritual purpose decides that he will only listen to whom he or she wishes to listen to...That was an interesting occurrence within bishop Pearson, as he refused to listen to the council of fellow ministers EXCEPT for the one's he choose at the time. That's never a good thing.
Then of even a greater interest was the revelation of scripture that seems to be coming to pass now more than ever. Those scriptures are as follows:
Numbers 32:23~ "But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will FIND YOU OUT."
Luke 12:3 ~"Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the HOUSETOPs."
Whatever is done in the dark will come to the light. God will allow the secret councils of the enemy to come to light. I would encourage every minister to clean their hands because what has been said in the dark will be repeated in the light.
Who Was The Culprit Or Need We Ask?
Although that may not be as important as what we're about to look at, I began to wonder who was one of the main ministers in the 1990 Conference. I found the clip below and watch closely a man under pressure, pimping and being pimped:
Did you notice that the clip opened with a prophetic and apostolic word being delivered to then Pastor Carlton Pearson by none other than the Master/Arch Prophet himself, Bishop Bernard Jordan?...Even more so, the key speaker that year was none other than Dr. Myles Munroe.
What a combination. A prophetic utterance from someone who SELLS prophecies and diverts when he gets a prophecy wrong or talks over it to make you think you didn't hear what he said...evidently he had something going for himself during this meeting and took the lead prophesying that Carlton was being raised up and that this is what he was supposed to do:
"Move in the designed and designated part of the body that I've called thee, The one is not greater than the other but there is a distinction of parts"
Carlton followed up by telling the crowd that his primary speaker WOULD NOT attend the service (Obviously Myles Munroe was his stand in) and that the people were unaware that he (Carlton) had been afraid to pronounce some things about himself and his ministry that he had known for the last 20 years. He stated "Never wanting to turn the people off that God had brought me to and through" and that what he was going to do...he said "it will be understood by the people who will understand it, and we will be a people of God."
Now, I hate conspiracy theories and I may well be joining the ranks of them that ask questions when there is no real or clear answer, but can an ye see what's wrong with that picture?
We have a minister who has admittedly 20 years later said that he knew he was pimping and being pimped by one of the ministry associates at the meeting and was being "directed" to a "part of the body" that people couldn't understand that he was going to be sent to...
What we see the effects of now, was obviously talked about long before now and was planned and destined to happen at some point.
Jude 1:4~"For there are certain men crept in UNAWARES, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."
The problem I see with the church is that we have become so enamoured with the personality until we can't see or hear Christ. We believe that a person such as Bishop Pearson can espouse false and heretical and nonbiblical teaching and still be a Christian because he has a confession of Christ...But the scripture has never been more true:
Isaiah 29:13 ~ "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and WITH THEIR LIPS do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:"
Throughout this interview, Lexi was basically seduced by what she thought Carlton had meant to the body of Christ historically. She was in awe of his abilities and obviously was smitten by his words so much that she tried to harmonize his teachings with the teachings of the bible. This is called the spirit of seduction. Surprisingly enough, out of all people, Dr. Jamaal Bryant was the one who stood against Carlton's assertions strongly claiming that he needed to come back...AT least until Carlton said the prior statement which I will repeat for clarity:
"I believe the gifts are without calling [meaning repentance]we got babies stretched across this country-preachers...I know "stuffCarlton basically concluded when he said this after a prayer offered for him under Jamaal Bryant's direction:
"If you're as powerful as you THINK you are, I'll be back!"
Someone asked me what I thought of that statement, because it is one where one needs spiritual ears to hear. I summarize my answer by quoting scripture:
Revelation 21:8 ~"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their PART IN THE LAKE which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death"