Sunday, August 1, 2010

Hip-Hop, Idolatry & The Church Pt. 10

"I wanna record with Prince."

So says Assistant International Music Director of the Church Of God In Christ Inc., or more correctly the Vice President of the International Music Dept.,  Kim Burrell. The following information is from a 2009 interview with E.J. Gaines of . In light of the recent post on gospel crossovers in Pt. 9 of this series, I thought it interesting to delve a little more deep into the subject and see what is attracting so many of today's gospel singers into relationships secular and worldly artists and how they are reconciling their actions.

I have pasted the 2 parts of that interview that we are concerned with in this writing. Kim's responses are in bold:

Pt. 1: Kim Burrell On Prince
EJ: Nice. Couple more questions… I’ve asked several people who they’d most like to record with and many of them have said either Stevie Wonder or Kim Burrell. Now, you’ve already recorded with Stevie Wonder and you are Kim Burrell– so how do YOU answer that question?

KB: Prince.

EJ: PRINCE?! I was not expecting that.

KB: I wanna record with Prince. There’s still a sound… I feel the presence of God. There’s a sound to come out of Prince through submission to the Holy Spirit. Not just to God, because he has a regard for Jehovah, for God.

But I’m talking about a SOUND to come out of Prince. I feel like every time I say it, God is shooting it to him. Not for the benefit of Burrell to do a recording. We can do it and keep it in the house as far as I’m concerned. I just wanna record with the man and sit with him because God has invested something in Prince that NOBODY in the world has.

And because of that, he has a worship inside of him that is second to none. There is an album that he did within the last 5 or 6 years, and one of the songs… honey, when I tell you there is a sound on there that came very close to the Holy Spirit of God… and I know he’s been tapping in on that because of his encounters with God.

EJ: I believe that.

KB: But there is still something that is to come out of him that I want to experience, and I’d love to do a recording with him because I want to experience that moment. I want the Spirit of God to flow through him to write and say some things to God that can change some people’s lives, and change how people worship.

I believe that Prince has an element inside of him that can change the way worship is heard.

EJ: Hmmmm. I pray that it happens.

KB: I do, too.
Here we go again....

Now, this is really beyond me...She follows the same line of reasoning that Juanita II followed when she claimed that Prince and DMX were "before their time" and even visionary in their music. I can't for the life of me figure out how Prince, has "a worship inside of him that is second to none," I mean Prince or the artist formerly know as Prince, whichever one we are talking about, has something that "will change the way worship is heard"???? 

This gentleman (Prince) embraces the tenets of the heretic Charles Taze Russell and the non Christian Cult of the Jehovah's Witnesses...This is a cultic believer that still embraces his path as an avid adherent to a non-Christian cultic belief system. Although he
may be somewhat toned down as a celebrity, almost speechless in accepting his tribute at the BET Awards, if he follows this cult as is the story, he certainly has no clue as to who the Holy Ghost is, rejects Jesus as God, and even more as a non-created pre existent being. He further has to believe that all churches, including Kim's, are apostate and rejected of God. Prince has neither repented, neither is he on fire for Christ, neither can he be anything pertaining to Christ...What is going on??? How can a top gospel singer and worship leader in a pentecostal/holiness church have this great of an admiration for a non-believer that REJECTS the Jesus that she says that she sings about and dedicates her life to? She is correct, Prince will certainly change not only the way worship is heard, he will change worship all together.
It Must Be Magic

After you got up off the floor on the last part, as this may take some about a week to really get through when you think of the implications of what was just said, by a ministry music leader...then we can go on to this one, but you should remain seated so that at least your trip to the floor won't be so long this time...Sister Burrell is now going to do her best David Blaine impersonation and pretend that the bible supports gospel's collaboration with secular artists and secular music, by confusing evangelizing with the creation of music...Now the interviewer starts this confusion and notice how the collaboration part simply turns into "friendship"...Watch this, but please remain seated:

Part 2: Biblical Reconciliation Of Collaboration With Secular Artists

EJ: I wanna ask you about something that remains a hot topic of debate in gospel– associations and collaborations with secular artists. You’ve been outspoken about your friendships with mainstream artists like Chaka Khan, Omarion and countless others. And you’ve recorded with some mainstream artists as well. Yet you have peers in gospel, some of whom you’ve even recorded with, who are just as outspoken about NOT fraternizing with people in hip-hop or R&B.

What is the responsibility of the gospel artist in reaching artists in other genres, if there even IS one?

KB: The Bible is the truth for me. And it said “go into the highways and hedges and compel men to come, that My house might be filled.” It did not say “go and compel Christian men.”

EJ: Wow.

KB: Let me get my Bible because I want to quote it exactly… *pauses to grab her Bible*… Luke, Chapter 14, verse 23… and I hope this doesn’t get me in trouble because I’m here in my office and I’ve got this Bible, the one that I pray and cry in. That’s VERY not safe right now, because we will end up on the phone for 3 hours.

EJ: Ummm… we can do that. I’ll take it all. You can even call and leave voicemail messages with a good word in ‘em.
KB: *laughing* See, it’s in RED– “unto the SERVANT, go out into the highways and hedges and compel them to come in, that My house may be filled.”
Let me tell you something. THIS is a priority. If Jesus said it, it’s priority. And if we’re going to ever, EVER preach and teach and compel, I don’t plan to EVER do it just in the house of God, with people who are commanded to do the same thing as I am.
KB: Why in the world would we not communicate with people… and people say “why can’t you just minister to them and call it a day?” I do.
I called Tyrese the other day– he’s in Austria right now and he’s finishing up his movie. Right before he went to Austria, I called him because he was heavy on spirit, because of my interaction with him, and having dinner with him and spending time with him in L.A.

EJ: You haven’t been eating with the tax collectors, have you?

KB: What? Oh, yeeeeees. And boy, was the meal good!

EJ: *laughing*

KB: *laughs*

EJ: But that’s the type of interaction I believe that Christ calls us to. It’s so weird to me that we wanna sing and preach to each other exclusively, as if we’re presenting some new revelation each time. It’s one thing to remind one another of the Gospel daily, but we’re almost so busy EVANGELIZING Christians.

KB: That’s right. And STILL not helping each other. Because we’re falling in front of each other, and we’re falling WITH each other.

EJ: Uh-oh.
KB: Some are leaving church together, getting drunk together, men AND women, whatever the gender… doing everything under the sun. But judgmental of things with which they have not been acquainted, things that are unfamiliar territory for them. They don’t know how to encounter it, so it becomes a “no-no.”
When people have only done what they’ve been taught, and they’ve not experienced it or asked God about it, they’ll be judgmental. But my commission, my priority is to do what the Lord has called me to do. And I’ve been successful with that.
EJ: Amen.
KB: I’ve had PLENTY of opportunities because of it. Like Tyrese, I mentioned calling him. He was just waking up and he said in his tired voice, “hey Lovely,” (that’s what he calls me) and I said “hey, when you wake up, call me because you’re in my spirit and I need to pray with you.” He said “I’ll do it, give me ten minutes.”
He called back in five and I shared some things with him and prayed with him. Do you not know, my friend, that he said “Kim, I’ve got 103,000 people following me on Twitter right now and I’m letting them know that what you’ve done for me, that you just prayed for me. And I’m starting a Twitter page for you right now.”

He grabbed whatever pictures he had of me and set something up… within maybe 5 hours, I had over 2,000 people following me. [Editor's Note: You can follow her at]

EJ: Yep.
KB: You mean to tell me that I’m not supposed to reach out and have dealings with them? They say “well, you’re doing music… you have to represent…” I REPRESENT GOD.
You’re tellin’ me that every person in the Armed Forces, that’s saved and loves Jesus Christ, knowing that they might have to go and MURDER somebody if they go to Iraq, they’re going to hell? They’re not doing the work of the Lord?
EJ: Right.
KB: So, I’m not into debates with people because folks always have their own idea about what it is that folks should and should not be doing. And those who are usually pointing the finger are talking to the wrong people.

And listen, those people found ME. I was walking in the store, 15 years ago or so, and Chaka Khan called MY cell phone. I don’t know how she got it. She called me. Same thing with Stevie. I left that message for so long on my machine…

EJ: *laughs*

KB: But he called me and we’ve been very close for 13 years. We talk about everything. But the deal is that these people need an outlet, they need somebody that they can trust. They know they can’t talk to each other, just like we can’t in church.

We know we can’t go to some of these artists– I KNOW I can’t! I know several artists I can’t go to right now and trust them with my personal business. Baby, it’ll be all over the place!

EJ: *laughing hard*

KB: With stuff ADDED depending on how they feel about me, with their grinnin’ selves. Don’t get me started, maaaan.

EJ: Oh my!

KB: I don’t get started on that junk. I’m out here doing work. I have more comfort with people in the world than I do with them. Because they’ll come right out and tell you– “if Jesus Christ comes back, I ain’t going.” And it gives me an opportunity to tell them why I know that they CAN, and deal with their situation.

Rather than church folks sayin’ “oh, I know He’s alright! High-five your neighbor!” They ain’t about to say “high-five your neighbor, although I fornicated last night” or “high-five your neighbor, although I committed adultery”… “high-five your neighbor although I’m an alcoholic, and a homosexual and a pervert.”
They ain’t gonna say that.
EJ: Right.
KB: But, you know, I love everybody. I love Jesus. I love doing this– it is what I do. I do the work of the Lord. It happens to come in the form of an album or two once in a while, concerts, and all kinds of stuff that the Lord is blessing me to do. This ain’t about Kim Burrell.
I haven’t known how to wake up and be about Kim Burrell since I was about 27. I stopped trying to be about Kim Burrell, especially after I had my son when I was about 31. I am not about Kim Burrell anymore. I’ve forgotten how to be about her.
Now, the switch was on in that conversation...there was no mention about making music and supporting these artist secular music efforts, only "fellowship" and "friendship" and "ministry" to the lost. This is tragic and I fault not only Kim but also the host for not directing the conversation and separating the issues. Although one must know that Kim certainly knows the difference and the true concern. The concern is certainly not calling Tyrese up and having prayer with him or any other secular artist. They need prayer right along with the rest of us. The topic is why are our gospel singers and artists so head-strong on making music with and singing with secular artists and individuals? Why is it that they must support secular music efforts by taking their talents, given to them by God and using them for the world and a system that doesn't proliferate the message of Christ?

Have our leading Psalmists (as they are called now-days) forgotten about the holiness of God? Have they been so tricked into believing that they are to support the world with their talent while simultaneously preaching against it? Is it possible that they have conformed to the world and the world, though feeling better in their sins, (certainly feeling justified in their sins) has yet to truly come out and make Jesus Lord? Is there a different brand of salvation for those who have achieved a certain level of worldly success than us average, non celebrity folk? Obviously there is, at least in the minds of the stars and those with associations along these lines. 

What is the difference? The difference is the nature of music itself and what it represents and stands for. Music is not a morally or socially neutral venture. Music has a message and promotes a message, a world view and reality whether desired or hoped for or experienced. With the nature of music so clearly outlined in the bible one cannot simply sit by and minimize the impact of the intertwining of that which is holy with that which is profane.  One thing is for sure, individuals like this are making a mess out of the mission of the church and the sanctity of service to God. 

Where are the leaders in calling in the song leaders and holding the music ministers accountable? Do none of these individuals have spiritual and biblically centered leadership that will make them be accountable for their actions and associations? Yes, and they have every right to also hold the pulpit minister accountable for his/her actions also. 

We have drifted, collectively, away from the fountain of holiness and that which resembles Christ and yet we claim and profess that we are holy, not knowing that this is an utter impossibility. Our singers have been seduced and cloaked by the world and what it has to offer and seduced by the promises of fame, associations, acknowledgement and a type of spirituality that is certainly zealous, but without restraint and wisdom of God's council. It is in the wisdom of men that many stand binding themselves with the chords of an industry who's goal is not proliferation of the gospel, but corporate profits and expansion of status among men. 

How can we continue and feel that we will be blessed when all we've done is deliver our best to the altar of satan, sin and the flesh. Lord help the church to stand for if the Lord doesn't help even the remnant will be overwhelmed. 

Proverbs 14:12 ~ "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the WAYS OF DEATH."



  1. OK, here we go...

    "Pastor, these artists are just fulfilling their artistic desires and talents. They should be allowed room for that"

    OK, let me outline something...Most of these gospel artists, Kim burrell included, say that their gift and talent is a "ministry"...not simply that they like to sing and do shows, but a "ministry".

    In that context, 2 things can be said:

    1- Gospel people realize that a "ministry" does not exist without the "calling" or God. In other words, just simply wanting to do something without a God calling DOES NOT make what you want to do a "ministry". So that's #1. If they are doing "ministry" it is because they feel (for a lack of better word) a sense of calling from God to do so...this is how THEY describe their works and actions.

    2- If God has "called" them to "ministry" as they proclaim, then God has also called them to HIS service EXCLUSIVELY. God NEVER had any dualistic prophets or servants...some that served him part time and served the devil in their off time.

    So all that leads to this...if these "ministers of music" are "called of God" as they proclaim then their gift CANNOT be used to expand a sense of their own creative license outside of the sphere and direction of the exclusive use of and from God himself.

    So in short...SOMEBODY is lying...Somebody is not telling the truth. Someone is NOT called of God they are merely gifted as a singer and find it a money maker or easy to simply say, "I'm ministering to the Lord and am a minister of music."

    They can be a singer and do this for sure...I personally have no qualms with that. However, when they say they are a "ministry leader" or a "worship leader" then we have a problem of EPIC proportions if their "desire" is to yet mingle and intertwine themselves with the world and worldly artists.

  2. Ok I have to say this until the Lord comes back how do you know she is wrong or right. I'm banking on she's right because it's not what the church thinks is right. But it's ok at a large confrence, midnight musicals, concerts etc. for gospel to be all the way homosexuality and is ran by that and the Bishops and Pastors are ok with it. I'm getting tired of it just because they sound good but they know better people let it continue. Why is that? I grew up in church so I know what this is. What Kim is doing I commend her because a lot of "secular artist" and people of the world don't even want to deal with "church folk' 1. Because we're so judgemental but don't judge ourselves.

  3. Now when the bible said "Matt 7:2-5 "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged [if we judge with an evil heart or dark intent, His judgment of us will reflect it; if we judge nobly with honesty and justice, His judgment of us will reflect that, too], and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you [if we use extremes or exaggerations or other ignoble means, our judgment will reflect it and judging with fairness and compassion will garner likewise in His judgment of us]. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye [point out his sins, "minor" in Jesus' example here] and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye [our own sins, even and especially those we will not admit, magnified by our selective blindness]? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' [tell him of his "minor" sins] when all the time there is a plank in your own eye [that there are greater or the same sins in our own lives which we do nothing about or think we are above]? You hypocrite* [pointing out the sins of others while by pretense thinking of ourselves as above sin], first take the plank out of your own eye [sincerely ask the Lord for forgiveness and learn and live the Truth and Light by His Word], and then you will see clearly [be in a righteous position] to remove the speck from your brother's eye [to judge and to help him out of his bondage to sin]." At Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan, Jesus was talking to the multitudes gathered there after hearing of His message and of His healings to beseech them to not become like the pharisees and hypocrites who think they are above sin."

  4. I have a real problem with church people because Christ knew the word in the bible was for the "saved" folk because we're so quick to judge but the 1st to end up in hell because they had it all wrong. Not only the homosexual thing that is widely spread throughout the church like wild fire but also the cheating on wives or husbands at the church that they go to together. Kim getting people in church like how Christ would do he went after the most sinful people and they ended up being the most effective because they were honest. Examples: 1.The Woman at the well, 2.The woman who annointed Jesus feet, who he really didn't come to save because they weren't the "Chosen." 3.The theif on the cross next to Christ, shall I go on? See that Job you work at outside of church does not beleive in Christ and let's be real you ain't hardly been getting everybody saved on your job. So Kim has been reaching out on her secular job like you work at and you probably aren't a giver or tither for that matter which I'm noticing a lot of church folk are not doing because it's not popular. Now because I know this is going to make you mad becaus ewhat I just said because it might be who you are but look how I judged you. LOL! Did you like it? Selah.

  5. The people Christ rebuked the most was the "saved folk." Know that I got that off my chest were in the bible did God say you can't play or do secular music? If I'm correct Joseph gift was used for a kingdom that did not reverence God but because of that he was able to save his family doing his "Secular Job" for Pharaoh. I could go on and on about this but It's pointless because everybody feels they're righ and say Kim keep on doing what you're doing. Stay blessed.

  6. Amen, Supt. Burnett. Continue to stand on the Word of God! The Bible said even "the very elect will be fooled"

  7. How could Jesus rebuke "saved folks?" thats not scripturally sound at all. He rebuked the Pharisees and Scribes (Jews) and said that they would die in their sins if they dont believe. How can you not believe and be saved?

    The defense of this always comes down to whats wrong in the church and how we are judgmental and all that. My wrong doesnt make this right.

    She can be a friend with whom she pleases the question is about doing music with sinners not about being friends with them.

    She weazeled out of it with a bunch of nonsene trying to deflect from the issue at hand and here comes anon defending the indefensible.

    Give me a minute.

  8. As far as rebuking, I mean in regard to what anon said.

  9. Anon @ 9:03 said "So Kim has been reaching out on her secular job"

    How is Ms. Burrels job "secular"? how can the worship of God be secular?

    Secular of or pertaining to this present world, or to things not spiritual or holy; relating to temporal as distinguished from eternal interests; not immediately or primarily respecting the soul, but the body;

    That comment aswers the whole issue now doesnt it. Its is a busniness and a job to make money and it is wrong to use the name of Christ in such a manner!

  10. Pastor, I thank The LORD for you. It cannot be easy to deal with some of the things that are said.

    We really need to get back to the bible because we have missed the mark and are getting down with the world and then calling it ministry.

    To all of the anons, every single scripture you quoted had no relevance on what this article is talking about.

  11. Anon, this post isnt about judging.

    Please get an understanding Prov 4:7

  12. Now Anonymous comments are always welcome and a person doesn’t have to be embarrassed, but I always wonder if comments like that are from people who otherwise live like they agree with the truth, but on the internet have too little backbone to stand for what they believe and make it known publically…like being in the closet only in personal opinion. That’s OK, but it’s an observation that I’ve had especially when comments are directed at some people’s personal favorites. Anyway:
    You said: Ok I have to say this until the Lord comes back how do you know she is wrong or right.
    [I have to say that the only way I “know” anything is wrong or right is by the Word of God, the witness of the Holy Ghost as it confirms his word, and measuring that against the objective standards that god has set forth. Any other “knowledge” or epistemological system is subject to that. Now I’m no mu more sure ground for “knowing” than you and your community relativism argument that you outline as the method by which you “believe” that Kim or anyone doing and endorsing what she endorses is right.]
    You said:”I'm banking on she's right because it's not what the church thinks is right. But it's ok at a large confrence, midnight musicals, concerts etc. for gospel to be all the way homosexuality and is ran by that and the Bishops and Pastors are ok with it. I'm getting tired of it just because they sound good but they know better people let it continue. Why is that?”
    [Now, you killed your own argument here…you said that it’s right because it’s not what “the church” thinks is right but go on to say that “the church” endorses all of it. So what you’re saying is that “the church” is hypocritical. Either way, that doesn’t bolster or prop up your argument. It only affirms that “the church” further agrees that what Kim endorses and what you have outlined is wrong. I can’t see how that addresses anything here.]
    You said:”I grew up in church so I know what this is. What Kim is doing I commend her because a lot of "secular artist" and people of the world don't even want to deal with "church folk' 1. Because we're so judgemental but don't judge ourselves.”
    [So tell me how can one live without making any judgments? What you call being “judgmental” is discernment when God’s standards is the standard by which things are measured. They are only “judgments” when the standard by which the judgment is made is self contrived or based on MY intellect, opinion or subjective standards. So your argument fails to hold muster because your definition and application of biblical judgment is not applicable in this case as Kim’s actions are clearly measured by the words and warnings of a Holy God telling his people to be separate (2 Cor. 6:17) and not of the world (John 15:18-19), neither to love the world.(1 John 2:15)]
    You said:”Kim getting people in church like how Christ would do he went after the most sinful people and they ended up being the most effective because they were honest. Examples: 1.The Woman at the well, 2.The woman who annointed Jesus feet, who he really didn't come to save because they weren't the "Chosen." 3.The theif on the cross next to Christ, shall I go on?”
    [Yes, you should, but only do it IN context next time. You can’t make up a context for those stories and expect to get any respect around here…Now, it’s hard for me to believe that Jesus would be a fan of “Get it up”,” Head” bisexual/drug abuser, cult believer and promoter PRINCE if he were walking bodily as he did before his ascension. You will have to go a long way for that one. Somehow I don’t think you can make any sort of half way convincing argument for that.]

  13. You said:”See that Job you work at outside of church does not believe in Christ and let's be real you ain't hardly been getting everybody saved on your job. So Kim has been reaching out on her secular job like you work at and you probably aren't a giver or tither for that matter which I'm noticing a lot of church folk are not doing because it's not popular. Now because I know this is going to make you mad because what I just said because it might be who you are but look how I judged you. LOL! Did you like it? Selah.”

    [Now, I must have missed the part where I had to feel offended by your commentary…anyway, I think the ONE argument you make was a common one and one worth addressing…Kim’s evangelization “at work” as you claim. Now, the question must be asked, do we sleep with the adulterer to minster to them? Do we do what they do, become enthused over what they are enthused with in order to “reach” them? You see there is a “method” to outreach and lines of demarcation that shouldn’t be crossed. The first line that shouldn’t be crossed is the love and dedication to God himself. It is from that fountain that ALL ministry to humanity takes place. It is a dedicated call to holiness (Heb. 12:14) that shapes and constrains our outreach and what we “do” in effort to reach. Kim can reach Prince without singing with him or even pursuing a desire to partake of his spirituality. Don’t you know that this is a spiritual battle? (Ephes. 6:12)The battle is for the hearts and minds and God has already prescribed a method and way of outreach and that does not include being entangled and or entertained by the world or the ungodly]

    You said: Know that I got that off my chest were in the bible did God say you can't play or do secular music? If I'm correct Joseph gift was used for a kingdom that did not reverence God but because of that he was able to save his family doing his "Secular Job" for Pharaoh. I could go on and on about this but It's pointless because everybody feels they're righ and say Kim keep on doing what you're doing. Stay blessed.”

    [First “saved folk” don’t need to be rebuked. They may need to be chastised but certainly not rebuked. Now, I started off talking about the difference between ministry and gifting. God NEVER had any biblical gift upon any of his servants that was self-serving or used for them to proliferate or create their own following, income etc. The gifts were always used under the direction and for the purpose of the demonstration of God’s work. Show me where Joseph profiteered by reading dreams of people? Show me where any biblical prophet, one defined as living for God, prostituted their gift for the service of baal, or other ungodly religious effort. What Kim is doing, since she claims she is “ministering” is tantamount to prostitution, only what she is prostituting is not her’s, it belongs to God…so it’s almost like she’s Pimpin’ the gift of God…that’s a sad association, but a true one for all them that follow in her path.

    So far as Kim is concerned, I believe she is a great person in all other aspect I’m sure. The only problem is that in this aspect her reconciliation of scripture on the subject is far short and will be found wanting in the balance.]

  14. Paul,

    You're absolutely right...a person can't twist and misapply scripture and think it has any relevance. This is the strange world of biblical interpretation that we live in nowadays.

    This is what happens when people's idolatry is challenged.

  15. "This is what happens when people's idolatry is challenged."

    And let the "true Church of God" say AMEN!

    "Church folks" will defend their "idols" til the very end...and Kim Burrell has been placed on a very "high platform" by "the so-called-church." No they couldn't possibly choose the "sound Word of God" over their "man-made-celebrity-idols." Israel didn't do it back in the old testament, and guess what, history or "HIS" Story is repeating itself today.

    Put away the idols people, and let's get back to worshipping the One and only True Star...The Bright and Morning Star!
    Don't get it twisted...Our Holy Righteous God CANNOT and WILLNOT TOLERATE THE MIXING OF THE HOLY WITH THE PROFANE AND UNGODLY! It's a stench unto His nostrils, as it should be to ours...Selah!

    Great post of TRUTH Pastor Burnett!

    Sister Pat

  16. Thanks Sister Pat...You're on point...idolatry has taken over the church. When people are worshipped greater and more than God, it's a mess!

  17. EnochWalked Said,

    Pastor Burnett, the LORD was furious with Israel when Moses went away for 40 days to get the 10Commandments. Israel(symbolic of the Church backslid and starting worshipping other gods and had the nerve to say these by thy gods that brought thee up out of Egypt.

    Satan has always used music and sex and the lust for fame to draw the children of GOD away from THE TRUE and LIVING YAHWEH!

    Exodus 32:17-18 KJV
    (17) And when Joshua heard the noise of the people as they shouted, he said unto Moses, There is a noise of war in the camp.
    (18) And he said, It is not the voice of them that shout for mastery, neither is it the voice of them that cry for being overcome: but the noise of them that sing do I hear.
    These 2 Verses clearly illustrate the strategy that the enemy uses to bring death and separation from GOD. We as children of the MOST HIGH GOD must be constantly aware, constantly watching and praying and NOT ASLEEP and stay WISE(Judgement and Discernment) to know what is of GOD and what is of the devil. All music even in the camp of the LORD is not from the LORD! These people were in the camp! These people had eaten the PASSOVER LAMB! I always say, the greatest enemy to the Body of CHRIST is the Tares within the Body. NOT THE WORLD! Prince is not the enemy...Kim Burrell being in error is being used by the Enemy! Amen.

    Who is Kim Burrell fooling? The LORD implied to me recently when people talk about reaching out, outreach, or evangelizing...The EMPHASIS should be on the Body of CHRIST lifting up the NAME of JESUS, living Holy with all of their might and strength in the SPIRIT...not in the flesh to draw sinners unto CHRIST. THE LORD said we are to be the SALT of the earth. Not the World. The LORD was saying to me, that many Christians got it backwards. We must desire sinners and unbelievers TO WANT TO COME TO US as we live unto CHRIST...NOT the Saints be drawn to the WORLD!

    What has happened TOO MANY TIMES to Number, the Christian gets drawn to the World and its vices and not the World drawn to the Body of CHRIST, where JESUS is the HEAD! Amen.

    If Kim Burrell and others in Gospel music and the Churches at large ARE so "Annointed" as they claim to be...Prince, Michael Jackson, DMX, and other worldly entertainers WOULD BE SO DRAWN TO CHRIST in them that the Worldly entertainers would BE WILLING TO GIVE UP Their form of music and lifestyle(That is what repentance means) and want to be with them! NOT the Church wants to be with the World...BUT THE WORLD should desire to be with the CHURCH on GOD's standards and laws! Amen.

    I don't see too many worldly musicans leaving the World's way of making music(hits) veruse allowing the HOLY GHOST to inspire music that praises and worships the LORD and HIS CHRIST! Amen.

  18. @Enochwalked...AMEN AND AMEN!!

    Sister Pat

  19. Hi Pastor,
    This is my first post, and I have come to your page frequently for many months .
    I would like to revisit the topic of ‘isn't what Kim doing similar to what Christian people do on their job’ (essentially working with unsaved individuals). Lets say I have several talents of managing, leading and creating, that I use on a secular job. Since group work is encouraged, I work with non believers. We create together a new strategy for the company or a new improvement for the company. This work is published and is a benchmark for a particular group in the company. On this published work, both I ( a Christian) and the non-Christian are credited for the work. Who get’s the glory? Was I wrong to work with the heathian? My God given talent was used to work and create something with an unbeliever.But neverthless, because of me using my talent with this non-believer I was afforded an opportunity to later present the gospel or build a relationship where my light shines. And yes my job pays me to work with all types of people (non believers). I profit from using my God given talents. These same talents I have can be used specifically in the church for leading people, adminstering, and creating.
    Let’s add another piece to the story. Lets say I work in the HR department and the work we created had to do with benefits awarded to homosexual couples. I say this because you Pastor typed “Music is not a morally or socially neutral venture. Music has a message and promotes a message, a world view and reality whether desired or hoped for or experienced.” As we now know most companies are big on diversity and LGBT sponsorship occurs. ... Or I don’t have to work in HR and the work created could be something other than benefits to homosexual couples. Some could say the fact that I’m aligned with/ work for a company with certain practices and beliefs (that are un-biblical) tie me to the beliefs of the company. When Kim works with unbelievers (uses her God given talent) some can say that she is aligned with them but in actuality this doesn’t have to be the case. She has the talent to sing. When she uses it in a church or specifically acknowledges God in songs many will commend her and say this is acceptable. However, God can use people’s talents in many different contexts and get glory . The songs I’ve heard Kim do with secualar artists weren’t offensive. (However, discerning the spirit of the nonbeliever she worked with on the album may have been offensive to my spirit). And I’ve heard some of the songs where she doesn’t mention Christ. I see pros and cons to both sides of the argument.
    I have to admit Kim’s mention of Prince being used by the holy spirit,etc is questionable. One could look at it as follows: maybe she has such a Godly love for Prince (nonbelivers ) to be used by God ,she is speaking from the perspective of what could be, if he is saved/ fully yielded to God.
    At the end of the day, Kim and all Christians have a personal relationship with God that we are stewarts over. I can’t say that Kim has the wrong heart or spirit on this matter, as much as I believe in holiness and sanctification & visually clear distinctions between the saved and unsaved, etc. And I prefer gospel artists not to work with the world (secular artists, non-believers). And it is unbalanced in my opinion that many gospel artists frequently first quote a secular artist as who they want to work with.

    Thank you Pastor,

  20. BSJ,

    I'd first like to say that I believe your words to be earnest, well-thought out and sincere. With that said, I see some major flaws in your assesment, flaws that I won't address because I want to give the very capable administrator of this site the opportunity to address them (provided he and I stand in agreement on this one). I think your approach tends to be jaded by a modernistic, 21st century understanding of relationships between believers and unbelievers, and even though Pastor B and I probably don't see parallel on some non-essentials, my gut feeling is that he would probably be in agreement with that assertion. So, I'll be standing by and patiently waiting and observing his response to you while I try to piece together what's going on here:,0,5152082.story

    Soli Deo Gloria,


  21. BSJ,

    Thanks for stopping by and feel free to join any convo anytime...

    You said::"I would like to revisit the topic of ‘isn't what Kim doing similar to what Christian people do on their job’ (essentially working with unsaved individuals)."

    Please note my first comment in this thread. I address that issue. First, these people, including Kim, insist that theirs is a "ministry". This makes what they do quite separate from any secular work parallel. Ministry is God directed, regular work is directed by a set of protocols that allow for the work to be done regardless of what God says (in a general sense). This is how many of us make our living.

    Secondly, it matters what "moral value" that is set forth by a career whether secular or ministerial.

    Collaboration with the world in this sort of venture is never morally neutral, neither is it to enhance ministry, and if the claims is that participation helps reach more people, that falls on deaf ears also (no pun intended) because music (in and of itself) is not biblically directed to save the lost or replace the commission of the word of God to the heart.

    Regarding secular employment and policies you stated: "Some could say the fact that I’m aligned with/ work for a company with certain practices and beliefs (that are un-biblical) tie me to the beliefs of the company."

    Now there is a difference. in secular employment, I don't believe you claim that you have a "ministry" within these secular corporations so far as setting policy. If that's the case then your work is to effect change of policy. Since we know that this worlds system and secular corporations in general are under the dominance of the enemy, the Lord has used the secular to lay up wealth for us, but to say that we are following their policies just because we work for them is a step further than is necessary. If one views things in such a manner, you couldn't do anything and I mean anything. In this world's system the unsaved at some point are always in a position to profit.

    Look, Joe own XYZ microphone company and employs all Christians. We can confirm that every employee is saved and is a Christian. The problem is not with Joe's business, it could be with his suppliers and vendors. His suppliers may not honor God, but Joe's company pays for their material. Should Joe close his business because of this dilemma? NO!

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    You said:"When Kim works with unbelievers (uses her God given talent) some can say that she is aligned with them but in actuality this doesn’t have to be the case. She has the talent to sing."

    That's not what Kim claims. Again she claims she has a music ministry and if this is the case she should not use that ministry gift to promote a message and whole world view apathetic and even contrary to Christianity and godliness. This is a horrible misuse of the gifting of God IF that is what she claims it to be.

    You said:"I have to admit Kim’s mention of Prince being used by the holy spirit,etc is questionable."

    Yea, it's borderline blasphemous.

    You said:"One could look at it as follows: maybe she has such a Godly love for Prince (nonbelievers ) to be used by God ,she is speaking from the perspective of what could be, if he is saved/ fully yielded to God."

    That's how she would want it interpreted I'm sure, but she offers her assessment without clause or condition. She, like others, claim that these secular artists are even anointed (Juanita II) and they they are blessed by God to do what they currently do. This is any other name it still is what it is.

    The other problem specifically in this case, not only is Prince not saved, he has REJECTED true Christianity. He was in the Baptist church and from there to 7th Day Adventism to a non-christian cult.

    For someone to "minister" and say that God is "shooting" something to Prince that will help the church in worship and praise is about as deluded as one can be.

    First, what is God "shooting"? Secondly, why does God use the profane in their profanity to teach the people how to worship and experience HIM? Didn't he say that the only one's that would stand would be those with clean hands and a pure heart? Then why would the church "minister" for the profane to stand unless they were either deceived or intentionally misleading the people of God?

    This whole things is unbiblical and we should be able to call it what it is and make a clear distinction between holy and unholy. What Kim is doing in this case is unholy.

    Now, that leads to the greater question of a gospel music "industry" all together. Should it exist, especially since it will be subdued by the secular music industry??? The problem is that our gospel singers are taking their "ministries" in there expecting God to bless them, but seeking to expand their own influence with the name of Christ slapped on top of it. That is a problem


  23. Ready4Change,

    Ann Rice is simply tired of the nonsense of the church (in her case Catholicism) and seems to be reverting to a position of self sustaining salvation...This seems to be a going practice among many that have been disillusioned with organized religion.

    That's interesting though. No matter what she won't revert back to being an atheist...that's telling and a good thing I suppose. She's certainly liberal though.

    Thanks for the lookout!

  24. Pastor B,

    Great response to BSJ and great observation concerning the Ann Rice situation...I agree, some belief in God is perhaps better than outright atheism, but I just find it quite peculiar that fame, fortune, money and status make it extremely difficult for folks to make a clear stand. What do you do with Jesus? Are you for Him or against Him? You can't claim that you love Him, yet utterly denounce the title that was given first to those at Antioch, while at the same time affirming what Jesus is vehemently opposed to in His word...Dubious at best, spurious at worst...Be well my friend, and continue to stand on the wall...(Jude 3)

    Soli Deo Gloria,


  25. Kim is deluded, she is not leading anyone to Christ - she is simply yielding to the desires of her flesh and attaching God's Name to it.
    Kim also stated that “she is feeling the presence of God” coming from Prince, well she is partially correct - she feels a presence, but it's not from God. Kim is walking in darkness.
    Paul tells us to walk in the light in Ephesians 5:8-12, (focus on verses 11 & 12)"For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret.
    We live in this world, but are not to be of the world.

  26. One of the biggest issues I have with these ministers/gospel entertainers is that they make it seems as if they are the only Christians these sinners know and that they (the sinner)cannot come to Christ unless it is through them. What makes them believe that in order for someone in the music industry to get saved, it must be them who have to conform for that to happen?

    These people know the gospel, they just refuse to repent because they love their sin. They have attained this worlds riches and dont want to give it up.

    Tyrese is the worst exmaple of ministry that she couldve talked about because he said that he is a Christian. What he needs to know is that he shouldnt take the Lords name in vain and repent and turn to Christ for real. Talking about she is praying for him, is almost a waste if he doesnt intend to be truthful in his supposed faith in Christ.

    These people have elevated themselves above the power of the Word and The Father to save and draw. Thats idolatry.

    I am reminded of the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Lazarus asked if he could go back from the dead and warn his brothers and this is what Abraham said.

    Luke 16:29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear THEM.

    Do we not have the words of moses and the prophets? Are they not enough to save or do they have to come from a special person.

    If one from the dead will not convince sinners what makes these gospel singers/industry workers/ministers/entertainers believe that they have some sort of special power to do so?

    Reading Pt 9 (great) will show us that most of these folk come from the Church in the first place.

    Man should not think of himself more highly than he ought to. Romans 12:3

    Here is a letter that she wrote after a backlash of he going secular.

  27. In a strange sort of way Pastor Burnett, Kim's "ministry" sounds like a music version of Carlton Pearson specious inclusion gospel.

    Any parallels you see there?

  28. Paul,

    Thanks for that link and that tells it all...


    Parallels??? Is grass green??? That is and was a total mess.

    The methodology is to say that she is infiltrating the wicked circles for Christ...but wait, she's actually glorifying them by getting with them at the same time...These are heretical acts.

  29. It sure does tell the whole story Pastor.

    What I find ironic is that in defending Ms. Burrell, here advoates have actually thrown her under the bus. That by calling what she does "secular" and a "job".

    Job - paid occupation: an activity such as a trade or profession that somebody does regularly FOR PAY, or a paid position doing this.

    Minister - one officiating or assisting the officiant in church worship b : a clergyman especially of a Protestant communion.

    Now if these become the same, we are in big trouble.

    Scriptures does say that ministers of the gospel should live by the gospel but thats not for pay as far as getting rich, its for LIVING.

    I have started to question the gospel music industry and shows like Sunday Best have been a great help in causing me to look deeply.

    You go into these things to "win", how can I win against my brother in such a contest. Is it that I can worship better than you? or is it just about a voice, the look, the runs etc? Does this mean anything to God in the least?

    Why do people want to become gospel singers? if you want to encourage people you can do so with ease. You can sing in many places and encourage the saints. You can set up your radio in front of your house and sing.

    Again, what the motive behind it?

  30. I am troubled that Kim Burrell, as a woman of God, has indicated this kind of interest in Prince. However, I could also say that I don't think its right that this Christian blog site repeatedly uses the photo of the Caveman, who is the spokesman for a worldly insurance company. It all stems from my belief that we as Christians must be in the world, but not of the world. Yet what I terrifies me more is whether critical comments about Kim Burrell's interest in Prince, or this blog sites' association with the Caveman amounts to the sin of judging. Who died and made me God that so that I could pass judgment on Kim Burrell or this blog site? Being a Christian is about representing and radiating the unconditional love of Jesus Christ to everyone. To that end, I believe that it is more profitable to the body of Christ to highlight believers who are loving right, rather than identifying Christians who are not living right.

  31. rac,

    blog comments "terrify" you?


    To your suggestion of highlighting Christians who are doing right, please get you a free blog and get busy.

    Before you do, take some time to ready your bible and see if any wrongdoers were ever highlighted and how many times.

  32. rac, do you realize the influence that these people have over the bodyof Christ.

    Do you know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?

    Do you understand the amount of false teaching that the Church is subjected to.

    Do you understand that in mainline Christianity to be worldly is now seen as being a good thing "to reach the lost".

    Sorry, but I want to know and be warned of false teaching. If you dont will be decieved.

    The gospel music industry on a whole is whoring itself with the world, would you rather we all turn a blind eye as if its all good?

    Sorry, but is isnt and we are in perilous times.

  33. rac,

    You said:"However, I could also say that I don't think its right that this Christian blog site repeatedly uses the photo of the Caveman, who is the spokesman for a worldly insurance company. It all stems from my belief that we as Christians must be in the world, but not of the world."

    Now what do the two issues have to do with each other? Absolutely nothing...Me using the caveman in no way parallels Kim burrell saying that God is in some way using a person who has a cultic belief...I don't say that the cavemen adds anythign to Crist or the kingdom, whereas Kim B says that Prince will open a new door of worship for the Saints. Can you possibly be serious???

    In addition, it's a pretty self refuting crircular argument to grip about me "judging" Kim while at the same time you'r j"judging" me or the blog in particular...It makes no sense...

    You also said:"Tothat end, I believe that it is more profitable to the body of Christ to highlight believers who are loving right, rather than identifying Christians who are not living right."

    So according to you, we're not supposed to preform what the scriptures says of crying loud and sparing not and showing HIS people their transgressions??? What book did you get that out certainly wasn't the bible.

    Anyway, freedom of speech is a good thing, thank God for your freedom also...

  34. Saints, I'll be away from things for a few days due to pressing business, to those of you who are able, please feel free to put apostasy and heresy in it's place on my behalf...God bless.

  35. District Supt. Harvey Burnett, Paul, gcmwatch.

    It seems that I was roundly attacked (in Jesus name) by all of you for suggesting that your criticism of Kim Burrell’s comments amounts to the sin of judging. You also take issue with my view that Christians should be about highlighting believers who are loving right (drawing people to Jesus), rather than exposing Christians who are living wrong. Finally, you claim that you want to know the book I got this judging stuff from because “it certainly wasn’t the bible”. Well I got what I said from the words of Jesus as recorded in the bible. I didn't leave the exact quotation before but I'll leave it now.

    1 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. (Matt. 7:1-5; NKJV).

    In Jesus' name gentlemen, you can attack me as much as you want because who I am in name and reputation is nothing - - - but who I represent by the power of the Holy Spirit is everything. Be careful of your criticisms of the shortcomings of Christians.

  36. rac,

    Now, you quote the words of Jesus and claim that is the standard for your comentary...I understand. Now, what is the context of Jesus' words?

    Was he simply saying not to 'judge' anything or was e saying not to judge specific things?

    I mean another scripture says judge nothing before the time...1 Cor. 4:5~"Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

    So you would hold that this scripture, like the one you quoted, would indicate or suggest that we (or anyone critical) would not say anything "negative" about the actions of another, I assume???

    If that's the case how would you reconcile the words of the apostle Paul in this same instance:

    I Cor. 5:9-13~"I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10-Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11-But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12- For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13- But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."

    Now, what would you tell Paul about telling the Saints not to even EAT with a 'brother' that is known as a "fornicator, covetous, idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner"...

    Paul said don't even eat with them. The point was not to have fellowship with them in any manner...I mean looks like we have a qulifying person in Kim now don't we??? What do you call someone who wants to "worship" with and introduce the church to someone who isn't a Christian? Frther tan that, someone who is an avid believer in a non-Christian cult...One that has no regard for Jesus as God in any manner...

    Reconcile that rac...Instead of trying to make an emotional appeal based on human ideologies make and reconciliation of scripture in context, because right now, it doesn't look like you have a leg to stand on in a biblical sense. Your assertions may be good for humanistically based moral constructs, but not biblically based ones...Please give me a supportable and biblically contextual basis for your assertions regardng what you claim is 'judging' that I an the others ae doing wrongly,whie your 'judging' is being done rightly...Please let me know this.

    Thank you.

  37. Please excuse the errors in my last comment, the keyboard that I am using at this location isn't functioning properly (that's in addition to my many mistakes-LOL)

  38. Another thing...I would seriously like to know do any COGIC Pastors still teach holiness?

    I mean it would seem to me that an issue like this would be a slam-dunk in a church that truly teaches and aspires to holiness...Why the silence from the pulpit regading this type of mess. Does money and association mean more than souls? What if you get all the money and associations and then everyone aroun you, including yourself, goes to hell???

    One pastor said, "we shoud mind our own business because that's a full-time job"...What is that? We can't walk, talk, and chew gum at the same time? We can't examine the church and situations through a biblical lens without feeling that we're out of order?? That's a ridiculous mess!

    Pastors, Supt's, Adm. Assistants, Bishops and Bishop Elects shoud be crying out against this farce from the rooftops...This is HOLINESS, not some weak, watered down, come and go as you please type of construct...I'd rather have the flow of the spirit, than the association and fellowship with unrighteousness...well, that's just me.

    Let those who believe in righteousness and true holiness hold it down 4 me please...LOL!

  39. Pastor B,

    Wouldn't get too worked up about it...True holiness is, indeed, something that is a necessity and must be real to our hearts and minds...We grow in holiness and righteousness as we grow in the intimate knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ...You're getting older my friend, learn to let drive by posters be exactly what they are---seasonal. In the meantime, ponder the wondrous work of grace that God has imparted into your soul, and the joy that both sister Burrell and brother rac would know if they would grow deeper in the revelation of this Christ that Dr. Lockridge knew...

    Those righteous folks back in the day could tune it up without a hammond...(smile)...

    Soli Deo Gloria,


  40. rac, please stop playing immature victim. Unless you really are one.
    No one "attacked" you. You spoke your mind, and I spoke mine.
    I didnt say you "attacked" me. Maybe youve never heard of a red herring, but you dropped one big time.

    Having said that, instead of you defending your own misapplication of the Word of God, you put up another "help Im being attacked" umbrella. Really, if youre not mature enough to have your beliefs scrutinized by other grown men, then its probably best that you dont make them public.

    Thats all I have to say because its extremely difficult if not impossible to converse maturely with people who havent yet made it into spiritual adulthood.

  41. GCM,

    Be gentle with rac...After all, how would you feel if someone took your bible and ripped out Matthew 6:1, Matthew 6:22-24, Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians and practically the rest of the new testament epistles? I just can't seem to figure out though why they left Matthew 7 verses 1-5, but tore out verses 6 and verses 13-23?...I guess whoever committed this dastardly deed didn't want rac to know about praying not to be led into temptation, putting all works performed and the motives behind them to the test of the measure of Christ and sound biblical instruction, and judging/discerning trees by the fruit they bear, examining yourself and correcting/rebuking others in light of what God has revealed to you about you, knowing that it is very possible for your brother to be caught in the same snare...I can only wonder how mr. rac could look at verses 1-5 and not notice the fact that the scripture NEVER SAYS NOT TO REMOVE THE SPECK FROM YOUR BROTHER'S EYE, but that to be sure you EXAMINE YOURSELF, CHECK YOUR MOTIVES AND ENSURE YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY before you do...If he were so kind to come back and explain himself, perhaps he can tell us what it means to be "roundly attacked in Jesus name"?...Having a hard time distinguishing if that is sarcasm or a serious accusation...In the meantime, let me see if I can get an APB out on whoever this is running around mutilating people's bibles...



  42. r4c, thats pretty funny.

    Anyway, I think bringing up the cavemen picture discounts rac's comment.

    It was a judgment disguised as not being a judgment (very slick there). Thats called "shooting yourself in the foot".

    No one is attcking you but truth is truth.

    For that matter, Ms. Burrell past a whole heap of judgment in her defense of the foolishness she is keeping up. So again, she loses the right to get upset about being judged.

    My wife was listening to the Yolanda Adams morning show and they did a segment "Yolanda takes Jesus to the world". This segment is not about her preaching the gospel to sinners, its about her doing songs withs sinners! (Instert picture of caveman). Hoew dumb is that? and they are glorying in it!

    I had no idea she sang back up for Jesus walks. This song is not about the Jesus of the bible for The Christ of the bible doesnt "walk" with sinners for "Two cannot walk unless they agree". So Kanye is saying that Jesus walks with prostitutes and thugs, lie, He draws and saves but Our God only walks with believers.

    So you can see how downright twisted the thinking is, when these gospel entertainers (err, sorry ministers) start to get popular in the world.

    She also did a song with Bone Thugs in Harmony (caveman) "Order my steps".

    She did not take Jesus to the world, she took "Jesus" and made him wordly.

    Can we please get real here, please!

  43. 1. I don't listen to secular music.The secular artists I know are thoise Iknew before giving my life to Christ and I've given it all up.As for Prince, Idon't think I've ever listened to any of his songs.I couldn't even recognise his voice on the radio.All I know abt him is that his practises occult sciences.

    The problem with Kim Burell is that she has opened a door in her life to the devil by listening to such music and he has now blinded her.Of course she's sincere, but he has blinded her.My mother has taught me, even when I was not even Christian not to listen to secular music. That's why I would never ever think of working with these people.Idon't even sing on my brother's beats, because he's not christian.So we come to the second point.

    2- When you have friends and familly who are doing wrong, it's often difficult to tell them no!Ithing she's dealing with people she doesn't want to hurt.

    To end this commentary Jesus was dining with sinners, but not participating in their sins.He was telling them to repent.not: come on, let's pray together even though I know you don't want to repent!

    And finally, we don't need tyrese to make us famous!!!!!it's not abt us as artists it's all about JESUS!!!!! And tyrese is not making Jesus famous, he's making the devil lovable!!!

  44. Wow. Folk-stick to God,s HOlY private interpretation s.


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