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Showing posts with label Dr. Mark Chironna. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Dr. Mark Chironna. Show all posts

Sunday, March 28, 2010

Apostates, Heretics, & False Doctrines II

Apostasy/Heresy Central: "Jesus Was Spoken Into Existence"

What amazes me is the sheer volumes of individuals who can't identify false doctrine. For a babe in Christ I certainly understand this dilemma and am here to hopefully encourage your spiritual growth and add a dimension of discernment to your spiritual walk. The problem is that we are seeing more and more of  individuals who have supposedly been around church, attending bible studies, listening to the preached message for years and who still yet don't know how to identify false doctrine or either just don't care. 

False Teachers And Heretical Teaching

In the following video, I don't know which to be more incensed by; the preacher spouting off what is clearly false doctrine, or the people that are sitting, cheering, praising and seemingly eating up every word? In my opinion, both are in a desperate situation.

Dr. Mark Chironna, who seems to be an open repository of false and non-biblical claims, has done it once again. Listen for yourself as Dr. Chironna claims that Jesus was "spoken into existence" when God said "let there be light" in Genesis 1:11. This is truly unbelievable from anyone calling themselves a Christian. I mean I would expect to hear something like this from a Jehovah's Witness or even a Mormon, but certainly not a Christian. Which makes me wonder, does Mark Chironna claim to be a Christian minister?

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Saturday, March 20, 2010

Pimps Say, "Even God Needs A Lender!"

The global financial recession has had it's impact on every economy around the world. There is probably no developed country that has escaped the impact of sinking monetary values, market instability and just abysmal returns on equity. One would not readily relate an earthquake to a financial recession, but as Pat Robertson relates the Haitian earthquake to an agreement to buy freedom at almost any cost over 200 years ago, we have other "Profits" that are also offering their strange, weird and ongoing, "greasy-spoon" interpretations and revelations of what God did (which is a false assumption) and why he's doing it.  

When God Needs A Lender

In financial circles it is often said that the ability to lend and borrow is the lifeblood of businesses and the economy in general. According to Pastor Steve Munsey, (a regular on TBN) God is in the same boat and borrowing and lending is the method that God will use and has planned to jump-start the economy. 

It begins like this, as a guest on 'Creating Your World' with Profit Mark Chironna, (who is said to charge $125 per half hour for life coaching) [I wonder how much does he charge to pastor???] Pastor Munsey introduced his book that he called "7 Blessings To Passover" (just in time for Easter) which is a new revelation that Pastor Munsey personally promises will change situations in your life the day after Passover.

Real quickly all it takes is for those planning to celebrate Passover, to "believe God" on the day after Passover. In fact if you follow the directions that Pastor Munsey lays out, you can expect at least 7 supernatural blessings. The video below outlines them but I'll outline them here as follows:

1- An Angel will be dispatched on your behalf
2- God will be an enemy to your enemies
3- Spirit of prosperity present
4- Sickness taken away from you
5-Long life
6-Increase and inheritance in your life
7- Special year of blessing

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Thursday, May 14, 2009

Propserity: The Gospel Of Excess


"I get so mad when I see these pimpin' preachers driving Rolls-Royces, Bentleys, flying around in their private jets, and making it seem like prosperity and money is the way of God when 90 percent of your congregation is on Section 8 or can't figure out how they are going to keep their lights on or feed their kids." ~Donnie McClurkin by Kenya N. Byrd Essence Magazine 3/26/2009

Lifestyles Of The Rich And Famous
In a recent interview with Essence Magazine Donnie McClurkin posed that lifestyles of leaders of churches were out of control and out of hand. He further stated that individuals sometimes preach and place monetary burdens on their congregations while they themselves live a life of luxury. There was and is much commentary on both sides of the issue as to just how a preacher should live and conduct themselves among the congregation.

Now the backdrop is this, for a number of years the church has been under attack for its excess social and moral practices. It would seem that the current financial recession is also bringing much of this to the surface, and I say thankfully.

The lifestyles of the minister and church have caught the attention of everyone both favorable and unfavorable, church and secular. Rod 2.0 Beta reports that not only is attendance at mega church New Birth MB Lithonia, GA. down but tithes are down over 20% since 1993. They also reported this about Bishop Eddie Long and his 2009 Easter Service which normally was held annually at the Georgia Dome:
  • "Bishop Long, who routinely preaches his sermons dressed in expensive tailored suits and dripping in diamonds, acknowledges that his members are no longer receptive to his "prosperity" message since many of them have lost their jobs and homes."
The first observation that we must agree with is that there ARE excesses and immoralities that have occurred that have not represented Christ nor his church. There are individuals who "fleece the sheep" for selfish gain and accolades. Secondly, there are yet a growing number of instances in which individuals within the church have caused the church to continue to be seen and regarded in a negative light.

Improper Biblical Insights:

Much of this sort of thing can be raced back to E.W. Kenyon but the whole Word Of Faith prosperity type teachings got it's start, in modern times, from individuals like the late Kenneth Hagin who taught that you can "write your own ticket" with God. Affectionately called Dad Hagin, in his book entitled "How To Write Your Own Ticket With God" which is a expose all fast rack to the throne room of heaven, Dr. Hagin said that the Lord said this to him:
  • "If anybody anywhere, will take these four steps or put these four principles into operation, he will always receive whatever he wants from me or from God the father"..."That includes whatever you want financially." The formula is simply, "1- say it, 2- do it, 3- receive it, and 4- tell it" As recorded in Exceedingly Growing Faith 2ed (Tulsa, OK: Kenneth Hagin Ministries 1988 pg. 73-74 (Numbers added)
In Hagin's teaching there was no acknowledgement of faith or believing prayer or even the will of God. Another part of the problem that we face within the church today stems from how many individuals misinterpret or just plain lie about their place and position within the kingdom of God. Some tend to think they are Kings, while others claim that they are "special preachers to the nation" (ala: Juanita Bynum) . For a long time now the late, defunct preacher, Bishop Earl Paulk, taught what was deemed as the "Doctrine Of The Kings Meat" which was wrapped in his "Kingdom Now Theology". These teachings allowed him to have congregational excesses such as money and sexual favors over a period of about 40 years, while restricting others to the pews and demanding that they not questioning the "anointing". By the way Bishop Paulk's most recent lawsuit was dropped in 2007. I don't know but I haven't heard that he repented along the way. If he did (before he passed)please let us know by referencing the article.

Some of these individuals proudly proclaim who they are and what they want and do. For instance, there's Dr. Bill Winston who confesses that he is a "prosperity preacher". Many of his supporters go on to contrast by saying what else should a preacher be? A "poverty preacher"?

Although that may be a trite response, the real danger is in his theology. Not only does he fall in the line of faith teachers and the Word Of Faith movement by teaching that faith is a force, he also teaches that believers (members of his church) are kings and he is a priest.

Dr. Winston, a former highly successful IBM Sales Director, has said that the congregation is to go out and get the money and to come in and give the money to him because he is the priest. In reward for this they can then have that new Mercedes, mansion or even an airplane. In other words the promise of God has a material one to one equivalency. Still, there are additional problems. In his book, "The Kingdom Of God In You" Dr. Winston sets forth the notions that even sincerely saved persons can unwittingly live under satan's rule, and that the promises of God rarely come from the outside sovereign work of God, but from the internal kingdom already within an individual. It's evidence that Dr. Winston doesn't recognize the total sovereignty of God both internally and externally and relinquishes and ultimately restricts God's sovereignty to external circumstances only. These are disturbing teachings and suggestions to say the least, and have very serious biblical and theological implications. Dr Winston has a new book coming out called the Law Of Confession which I plan to also review on this site.

For some individuals, giving the benefit of the doubt of spiritual correctness is all based on what ability they have or accomplishments they have amassed. For instance in the recent address the General Assembly of the Church Of God In Christ Presiding Bishop Charles E. Blake set forth the following notion and response in defending his action of endorsing and signing the Universal Declaration Of Human Rights (UDHR):
  • I’ve got too much work to do for the Lord, to be obsessed with somebody else’s faults or pursuits. One hundred and fifty eight people got saved at West Angeles on Sunday. I pastor your largest church, and it gives more to missions that any other church in our denomination. Each year for the last twenty four years my jurisdiction has given more than any other jurisdiction in financial reports. Wisdom is justified by her children. Before you believe a person’s allegations, check to see what kind of children that person has produced. What kind of work have they done?

In other words, from the Bishop's statements the gauge that the church should use in discerning right from wrong and truth from error is material success. Whether that be in the ability to create large churches or in the ability to wield massive amounts of money. (I'll do another post regarding The Bishop's misstatements on the UDHR in another post) So in essence, wielding money and drawing crowds is a validate of success when Jesus name is attached. This is not the gospel of the Kingdom, this is the gospel of self and self kingdom pursuit and validation. Neither John the Baptist nor Jesus had churches, buildings or large treasuries, but both were more highly successful than any now walking. Then there are a list of Apostles that follow the same route.

Naturally, we understand that the Kingdom requires material blessing and financial arrangements. The problem is the obtuse rendering of these things and the seeming pyramid structures, schemes and psycho-manipulation that these ministers use to amass money and increase their wealth.
Those schemes never seem to exist greater than when mixed with vacations disguised as spiritual retreats to places such as Las Vegas. Yes, as confirmed by Melvin Jones at Pulpit Pimps, Sin City is where Bishop I.V. "Money Man" Hilliard plans to retreat for spiritual empowerment in July 2009. Now, we know that there is no city that is so called more spiritual than another, however there are some more conducive to sin than others. By it's nickname (Sin City) Las vegas has been labeled as "Whatever Happens Here, Stays Here" and this is quite telling. Last I knew the only thing I wanted kept secret was SIN. On the other hand, we don't minimize that there are good people in Las Vegas. Thank God for Christians trying to win their community by their example, what we point to is the thought that material doctrine usually lead to materialistically based decisions and excesses with materialism and social status at heart.

Then there's the Leroy Thompsons of the world. Dr. Thompson's book, "Money Thou Art Loosed" set forth the notion that "prosperity is a mark of covenant. God desires for His children to live the abundant life financially, and there are things we can do to cooperate with God in faith to cause money to be loosed into our life."

These principles and "things" we can do usually have no regard or preferential treatment for them that are saved. In other words, if the unrighteous do the things that are outlined in most of these books and teaching messages, even they too will receive and overabundance.

One of the more popular ones of them all is Creflo "Crank Dem Dollars" Dollar In his book "8 steps To Create The Life You Want: The Anatomy Of A Successful Life" Regarding the books basic premise he says this:

"For instance, your words produce your thinking, your thinking drives your emotions, your emotions dictate your decisions, your decisions determine your actions, your actions shape your habits, your habits form your character, and your character determines your destiny. Today, I ask, is there anything missing in your life? If so, commit to walking out the eight steps in this book, and you will understand how to position yourself to experience change. What are you waiting for? You’re only eight steps away!"

Heretical Teachings & Metaphysical Beliefs
Another part to this teaching is the flat out heresy that exists among some of the more popular prosperity teachers. As if obtuse materialistic teaching weren't enough, Kenneth Copeland for instance has no idea about the deity of Christ from scripture or otherwise. He levied a long prophetic utterance in his "Believers Voice Of Victory" some years ago in which he claimed that the Spirit Of The Lord had spoken to him and told him the following:

"...The more you get to be like me, the more they're going to think that way of you. They crucified me for claiming that I was God. But I didn't claim I was God; I just claimed I walked with him and that he was in me. Hallelujah. ["Take Time To Pray" Believers Voice Of Victory 15,2 Feb. 1987:9]

The next month he would followup on questions he received by saying that he didn't say that Jesus wasn't God only that Jesus never made that claim here on Earth. [See "Christianity In Crisis", Hanegraaff (Harvest House 1993) pg. 138]

Obviously one can see either the total spiritual deception or total lack of biblical knowledge. Jesus made the claim to be God clearly in John 8:58 for instance
"58-Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59-Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by."

Jesus' declaration was the reason they (the pious Jews) wanted to crucify him. They considered that Jesus had committed blasphemy by equating himself with God. Not to mention John 1:1-18, Mt. 1:23, Jn. 20:28 and the entire usage of the word Lord (kurios) in Gk. which was the Septuagint (Greek New Testament) rendering of the Tetragram (the 4 sacred letters YHWH) from the Old Testament. Careful examination of this opens a whole new world of Jesus both declaring himself as God and openly receiving from others the same declaration. In fact John the Baptist declares Jesus to be the Lord (ie: God) for whom he is preparing the way according to Is. 40:3. This is confirmed in all gospels (Mt. 3:3, Mk. 1:3, Lk. 3:4, Lk. 1:16, and Jn. 1:23) The disciples ask the "Lord" (kurie, soson) to save them (Mt. 8:25) Peter later cries out the same, "Lord save me" (kurie soson me) when he began to sink after walking on water (Mt. 14:30). Jesus uses the double wording of Lord, Lord (Kurie, Kurie) to to emphasize his title of deity or control in the destiny of souls. (Mt. 7:21-22, Lk. 6:46 and Mt. 25:11) There are a host of other instances but the point is made clear, Kenneth DIDN'T get that word from the Lord Jesus or any heavenly angel at all. What Kenneth did was preach another gospel and we know the penalty for that. (Gal. 1:8-9)

Finally in this segment, there's Mark Chironna leveling prophecies based on one's ability to give, never mind who's receiving...just give. I've documented his false doctrine in "Not My Chironna" This gentleman has a broadcast called "Creating Your World" during which he affirms the metaphysical nature of words, teaches that believers have a "field of attraction" around them, and reduces the move of God to the ability to "make connections". Not to mention the fact that he teaches that everyone has the ability to use words to both shape and create circumstances in their lifves either favorable or non favorable. This goes beyond mere positive confession. It enters into the realm of mind altering creative abilities.
Materialistic Declaration

As Creflo suggests it is because of great character there is great prosperity. Wealth is because some have better abilities than others, playing heavily offf of the scripture of the steward that received talent according to their several ability (Mt. 25:15) one would naturally ask what accounts for the wealth of the atheist, such as Bill Gates and Warren Buffett? In every prosperity preachers arsenal there is a variation of this exact same premise to some degree along with a host of false prophecies.
Speaking of Creflo, I have a friend that was once a member of World Changers in Atl. Pastor Dollar PERSONALLY and SPECIFICALLY prophesied a son over her pregnant womb by the "spirit" and "inspiration" of the Holy Ghost. Several months later when A GIRL was born, pastor was shown to have added at least one more false prophecy to his arsenal.

We Must Stand For Truth At All Costs

Galations 5:1 ~ "Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage."

Christ has come to deliver us from the materialistic declaration of the prosperity crowd. These type of thoughts were the thoughts of Jesus day. He condemned those practices now along with his Apostles following suit after him. The scripture said this:

Mt. 6:33 ~ "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you"

Do either of these scriptures restrict us from material gain? NO. Do either of these scriptures require that we use poverty as a sign of righteousness? NO. Do either of these scriptures outline materialism as an indicator of spiritual success? NO. What these scriptures teach is that we, you and I, must prioritize our lives so that Jesus is at the top or the center of the plan. It can't be "me and Jesus" It must be Jesus alone.

Mt. 17: 1-8 ~ "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2-And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3-And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. 4-Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5-While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6-And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. 7-And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. 8-And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only"


Blessed!

(Please excuse an earlier version full of spelling errors. Thank you.)
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Friday, August 22, 2008

WOW! Not my Chironna!

As I have often stated on this blog TBN seems to be the meeting place for apostates, heretics, inclusionists, ecumenists and a host of other types of spiritually defunct and sensationalist teachers.

TBN yet has some good programming so one can’t "throw the baby out with the bath water" but the bad programming is especially bad programming. Particularly when it comes the likes of false teachers and mystics like Prophet Mark Chironna.

Mr. Chironna seems to have a spiritual/gothic/quasi-Christian thing going. Black punk attire with rings and dingo boots. Often sending a Bela Lugosi type of chill up one’s spine he presents some of the most strange prophecies and irresponsible rendering of the WORD I have ever seen or heard. I can imagine that he is a learned individual but certainly teaches beneath that ability. He follows in the same line of teachers that I addressed in The New Enlightenment Pt. 1 in that he believes in the metaphysical power of words and also the law of attraction which are both cult and occult concepts. His TV Outreach show is called "Creating Your World" which confirms the assessment of his belief in the ability to manipulate the physical world through the transcendent spiritual powers and the power of words.
I recently witnessed him present a portion of his new series entitled "The Kingdom Of Heaven Is Within You subtitled Unlocking Your Destiny Powers" Now that title is full of problems that could take the rest of this blog to expound on but I’ll be good and get to the point. I’ve never heard so much heretical teachings in one 20 minute segment of teaching.

There are 5 phases to this series (as if one isn’t more than enough). I was entertained and utterly amazed by Phase Part 2 entitled "The Obedience Of Faith" These are some of the more shocking and unbiblical things he unashamedly taught to his Christian audience:

Concerning knowledge and the implementation of it:

"Your intuitions and impressions must lead to a written word then to a spoken word."
Mr. Chironna in this paradigm expresses his belief that intuitions and impressions are the directing forces in our lives and help create and support one’s epistemology (Philosophical process regarding the methods by which one knows something) He suggests that "impressions" and "intuitions" are equivalent to the power of God’s word or at a minimum they offer a conduit by which one can manufacture a direction in one’s life. The scripture says however that "The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord" (Ps. 37:23a) and that the Spirit of the Lord would "guide you into all truth" (John 16:13) not that we would be "impressed" or be led by our "intuitions" into all truth.


"The concept is hear it, write it, speak it. This is a metaphysical practice as commonly found as essential to metaphysical worldviews and religions of mind science."


He next introduces the concept of aligning oneself with God and his word. On the surface I say…YEA! We can agree on that. But his conclusions, purpose and outcome are totally unbiblical. He says that when a believer comes into alignment with God in their

"Words,
Ways,
Walk &
Works"

Then they will create a "Field Of Attraction" upon themselves and their lives.

WHAT?

Is that not Eckhart Tolleish? Come on, I really thought at the beginning of the show that we were going to be learning the bible and how to get closer to God. I thought that maybe we were going to launch out into some deep spiritual truth. Instead we were launched into metaphysical reality and a Christianized version of the Universal Law Of Attraction as taught by Rhonda Byrne in The Secret. What a travesty! And THIS supposedly goes out all over the world supported by "Our many TBN Partners"

He then went on into another strange Gnostic tirade on how to receive from God more effectively. He said this in sequence, and remember these are his words:

"Identify energy drainers and replace them with energizers"

OK…Then he just keeps going, and going and going (I couldn’t resist that)

"Declutter your life and align yourself to your higher purpose…build your self esteem."

At this point I’m worried because my desk…well let’s just say, it’s not exactly the place to lay something that you want to find again right away…but I know how to find anything and know where everything is (within 10 minutes) so I guess I’m good. Then he goes on to say this,

"Once these things are done, make your wish list!"

Allrighty then…"make your wish list"…Then what? Well he sums that up as follows:

"Things will fall into place"
"Resources will become available"
"You’ll make connections"

In all of these things what do you notice? I’ll tell you...

God is strangely absent. All of these things are things for you to do with no or little regard for God and no direction to do them because he has said so. Christ is not center. Your intuition, impressions and desires through "wish list" is most important. Is that Christianity? It’s not Pentecostalism no matter how many tongues he speaks and his teachings are certainly not biblical.

God and the bible are merely a means to an end. Since God is not the center, he becomes a way for the flesh and human desire to achieve what it wants without and apart from the direction of God.

Then, as a well calibrated watch, he provides the closing "hook". He explains to the audience how to make all of this work for them in these words,

"There are 21 days in which your life will be changed. As you sow into the impartation of revelation, you receive from it [revelation] It is possible to hear revelation and never grow from it, without sowing into it" This is a give to get scheme by which Mr. Chironna manages to stay in business.

He, Mr. Chironna, drops the bomb that all of what he’s teaching won’t be of any use if the listener doesn’t "sow into it" aka GIVE ME SOME CASH. Also he wants you to know that if you miss the 21 days, it’s not his fault, it’s your fault for not "sowing into the revelation"

My, my, my, Chironna….This is tragic. I was tired and trying to relax and rebuild after a tiring Sunday and saw this. There is truely no rest for the weary.
Blessed!
Question: At what point are these heretical teachers not Christians? Comments Are Welcome

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