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Showing posts with label Pastor Rick Warren. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Pastor Rick Warren. Show all posts

Monday, April 13, 2009

Tricky Ricky ~ "What had happened wuz...”

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At a all time low must have been the Christian Chambers of Megachurchdom when Tricky Ricky better known as Pastor Rick Warren PURPOSEFULLY, in less than 100 days, recanted his words regarding homosexual marriage as not to offend the group of "sexual minority" and state that homosexuals are a class of people that he has no problems with in the least bit. This is all so reminiscent of the post I did called Parlor Tricks & Magic, that I felt a little research was in order so that we can see past this David Blaine impersonation that Tricky Ricky is trying to pull. Let's look at how the secular media and homosexuals considered Trick Ricky statements:

On 12/17/2008 POLITICO reported:

  • "But it’s his {Warren's} support for the California constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage that drew the most heated criticism from Democrats Wednesday." (emphasis mine)
Then on 12/17/2008 The Washington Blade editor Kevin Naff said:

  • "Warren, outspoken proponent of California’s Proposition 8, is James Dobson masquerading as a moderate.”



Even Tricky Ricky said this himself:

  • “We support Proposition 8. And if you believe what the Bible says about marriage, you need to support Proposition 8. … I urge you to support Proposition 8, and pass that on. … Everybody knows what I believe about it.”
So everybody in the world, including Tricky Ricky himself, knew what he was saying, what he meant and where he stood regarding Prop 8 and homosexual marriage...That is until Pastor Ricky met Larry King again.

Well, according to POLITICO on 4/12/09 Tricky Ricky cancelled his most recent TV appearance on ABC due to contradictory statements made during that Larry King interview. Besides the failure to show any conviction on what is arguably the most heated moral issue in America today, this situation even made Pastor Ricky invoke the 10% Grace Public Statement Rule. That's right...The 10% Grace Public Statement Rule which probably hasn't been used since Former President "Slick Willy" Clinton invoked it before the discovery of the "stained dress" and these comments regarding Monica Lewinsky, "I DID..NOT...HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS...with that woman, Miss. Lewinsky".

In like fashion Tricky Ricky said the following:

  • "I am not an anti-gay or anti-gay marriage activist. I never have been, never will be. During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never — never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going. The week before the — the vote, somebody in my church said, Pastor Rick, what — what do you think about this? And I sent a note to my own members that said, I actually believe that marriage is — really should be defined, that that definition should be — say between a man and a woman. And then all of a sudden out of it, they made me, you know, something that I really wasn't. … I wrote to all my gay friends — the leaders that I knew — and actually apologized to them. That never got out. There were some things said that — you know, everybody should have 10 percent grace when they say public statements.”
So we understand that you're not an anti-gay activist or anti gay marriage activist, but are you a minister of the word of God??? And obviously unless that wuz your body double, that was YOU Ricky saying that you and every Christian should endorse Prop 8. Did anyone else see what I saw and hear what I heard??? Or was this just a grand illusion?
In addition to all this, Pastor Warren's publicist said that the Pastor couldn't do ABC (Yes, that's Television) because he was "sick with exhaustion". Further, Tricky Ricky wouldn't comment on the Iowa Supreme Court decision to legalize gay marriage because "it's not his agenda" Notice the wording...it wasn't that the issue was not ON his agenda, he says it is NOT his agenda.
OK

So now, what some have proclaimed as the number one preacher in America, won't comment on a moral issue effecting millions of Americans because it's NOT his agenda??? In other words It's Not His Purpose!

What Happened To This Word?

Isaiah 58:1~ "Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of and the house of Jacob their sins"

But I guess in order to do that you have to have more than people power behind you, and really be full of the power of God and in the Spirit of the Lord like Micah states:


Micah 3:8 ~ "But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of judgement and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin."

I don't pastor a megachurch, so maybe I just simply don't understand the difficulties of being biblically consistent when those things could cost popularity, television appearances, political associations, and popular public opinion. So I guess because of that me and others like me who simply believe and uphold God's word no matter what doors close in our faces are just considered "haters" by the world. Then there's this word:

Rom. 8:6-8 ~ "6-For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7-Because the carnal mind is an enmity against god: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8-So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God."

Maybe the exegesis of scripture regarding standing against sin and immoral practices doesn't apply to the megachurch and popular pastor crowd. It certainly doesn't apply to the United Churches of Christ who now distribute condoms IN CHURCH to their members. So the church is no more than a social club and a place to self-promote popular personality. Maybe I just simply missed receiving the memo that being popular is more of what the Lord desires of his people than being saved, teaching and affirming biblical truth.




One thing I do know, is that when he comes, as my friends from Commissioned said some years ago, "There 'll be no time to get it right, when the Lord cracks the sky...Will you be ready when Jesus comes???"

Rev. 22: 10-15 ~ "10-And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11- He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, ;et him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12-And behold I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13- I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14- Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15- For without are dogs and sourcers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."


Blessed!
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Sunday, August 24, 2008

DNC Interfaith or NO FAITH?

The Democratic National Convention Interfaith Alliance hosted an event Sunday August 24th at the Colorado Convention Center, that met much criticism and gendered much local unrest. The Denver Rocky Mountain News reported that anti-abortion protesters disturbed the event both inside and out during a speech given by my Presiding Bishop, Bishop Charles E. Blake, who was invited as a guest speaker at the event.

Just earlier this week I received a comment from an anonymous poster asking me if I thought that this was a conflict of interest. I asked the poster "let's wait and see". What we can see is that there are more than a few issues that have arisen as a result of Bishop's appearance. Here is part of the report of the Rocky Mountain News:


"Bishop Charles E. Blake, presiding bishop of the Church of God in Christ, called on presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama to "follow through on his promise ... to reduce the number of abortions" while stopping just short of criticizing the Democratic Party for its support of the practice.
"Surely we cannot be pleased with ... millions of terminated pregnancies," Blake said to applause from the nearly full Wells Fargo Theater. "Something within us must be calling for a better way. If we do not resist at this point, at what point will we resist?"

Democrats must know about the "moral and spirtual pain so many of us feel because of this disregard for the lives of the unborn," Blake said.

In a speech focusing on society's responsibility to its children, Blake first focused on the plight of the inner-city poor as a human rights responsibility before calling abortion a practice "that conflicts with our position and our responsibility ... to human rights itself."

Although Blake intimated he was frustrated with his party's support of abortion, he praised its positions for the helpless in other ways. "Others loudly proclaim their advocacy for the unborn," he said, receiving a standing ovation, "but they refuse to recognize their responsibility and the responsibility of our nation to those who have been born. "They are presently and historically silent, if not indifferent," he continued, "to the suffering of our inner cities."

There has already been a host of commentary regarding religious leaders participation in this event. It is also presumed that Bishop Blake has joined other Pastors such as Bishop T.D. Jakes and Pastor Rick Warren in the ranks of endorsement of Obama/Biden ticket. Here is commentary from Gloria Poole RN who was one of the respondents to the Denver article:

"Bishop Blake, perhaps if the so-called ministers of this nation did not speak out of both sides of their mouth at once there would be no legal abortion in this nation? HOW DARE YOU? How dare you try to defend a man as President who never once voted prolife on anything? Who voted for legalized infanticide? Who voted to not notify parents of their minor daughter's attempt to get an abortion? Who never once voted prolife while in Congress or his state; and who wrote inflammatory articles at the Harvard Review claiming his support of the killing of innocents? What was written about you today in this article,if true, is what is wrong with America i.e. 'politically correct' wishy-washy, namby-pamby 'ministers' and 'priests' who don't know what they believe or why. GET ON GOD's side or get out of the pulpits!" ~ Gloria Poole RN, Artist

As you can see this is a very heated discussion especially in light of what Senator Obama said at Saddleback Church just a few days ago:(8/17/2008)
WARREN: ..."Now, let's deal with abortion; 40 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. As a pastor, I have to deal with this all of the time, all of the pain and all of the conflicts. I know this is a very complex issue. Forty million abortions, at what point does a baby get human rights, in your view?"
OBAMA: "Well, you know, I think that whether you're looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade."
WARREN: Have you --
OBAMA: "But let me just speak more generally about the issue of abortion, because this is something obviously the country wrestles with. One thing that I'm absolutely convinced of is that there is a moral and ethical element to this issue. And so I think anybody who tries to deny the moral difficulties and gravity of the abortion issue, I think, is not paying attention. So that would be point number one. But point number two, I am pro-choice. I believe in Roe v. Wade, and I come to that conclusion not because I'm pro-abortion, but because, ultimately, I don't think women make these decisions casually. I think they -- they wrestle with these things in profound ways, in consultation with their pastors or their spouses or their doctors or their family members. And so, for me, the goal right now should be -- and this is where I think we can find common ground. And by the way, I've now inserted this into the Democratic party platform, is how do we reduce the number of abortions? The fact is that although we have had a president who is opposed to abortion over the last eight years, abortions have not gone down and that is something we have to address."
WARREN: "Have you ever voted to limit or reduce abortions?"
OBAMA: "I am in favor, for example, of limits on late-term abortions, if there is an exception for the mother's health. From the perspective of those who are pro-life, I think they would consider that inadequate, and I respect their views. One of the things that I've always said is that on this particular issue, if you believe that life begins at conception, then -- and you are consistent in that belief, then I can't argue with you on that, because that is a core issue of faith for you. What I can do is say, are there ways that we can work together to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies, so that we actually are reducing the sense that women are seeking out abortions. And as an example of that, one of the things that I've talked about is how do we provide the resources that allow women to make the choice to keep a child. You know, have we given them the health care that they need? Have we given them the support services that they need? Have we given them the options of adoption that are necessary? That can make a genuine difference" Transcript Courtesy CNN Forums.
The figures on abortion have been placed at 100% Change Man for your review. I would ask the question to Senator Obama,
When you found out that your wife was pregnant with either of your two daughters, WHEN were human rights conferred upon them? Did you or did you not feel that they were entitled to human rights in the womb? Finally, and I strongly assume that you believe that they were entitled to HUMANS rights in the womb; why should anyone else's children be considered less valuable, less important, or less entitled than yours?
Will This make me vote for McCain...I'm afraid not. Should you assume that I will vote for Obama...DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH! Does this blog endorse either candidate....NO!
Opportunities are Golden. Did Bishop Blake say enough or go far enough? Do you feel his presence sent a confused or wrong message? I would like to hear from you on regarding this. May the Lord bless and keep you is my humble prayer. In Jesus Name!
Blessed!

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