tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post7446899955365146102..comments2024-03-27T11:13:34.520-05:00Comments on The Dunamis Word: 103rd Annual Holy Convocation ~ Great God, Good Lord...Say What???Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-79141852011829603502010-11-19T11:49:12.410-06:002010-11-19T11:49:12.410-06:00Supt, the thing that bothered me the most was that...Supt, the thing that bothered me the most was that rude Bishop Bobby Henderson. I have never seen a more rude preacher in all the days of my life. He is very ruff with the saints.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-70855580389821056702010-11-17T14:34:33.081-06:002010-11-17T14:34:33.081-06:00Today we have great orators,great motivational spe...Today we have great orators,great motivational speakers,great psychological manipulators,and emotional arousers, but in these last days of abundant deception we need more preachers anointed by God,sent by God, and preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven.I didn't see much of that at the COGIC convocation.Popularity is what matters today, not the anointing.waltnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-41211271218946044392010-11-16T13:03:54.260-06:002010-11-16T13:03:54.260-06:00Minister Brandon,
Excuse me my brutha...I was thi...Minister Brandon,<br /><br />Excuse me my brutha...I was thinking Jakes on your question.<br /><br />Now, I didn't see Bishop's message so I can't comment on it. I haven't seen any clips either. I do know there was great excitemnt because Obama sent a message. I'll comment further on that and other issues, in a new post to be released this eveing.<br /><br />I do know this however...the online community was filled with idol worship...we all want bishop Blake to live long and prosper, that's not the question...I want his continued success in righteousness...but the online community was like "he's the greatest thing since sliced bread" In fact Bishop Lyles, the general Secretary, said he's the "greatest preacher that ever lived"...While he may certainly be immensely greater than me, I have reservation about calling anyone, even Billy Graham, the greatest that ever lived...That was a serious overstep and far reach...I never heard him once deny any accolade and the online audince as I said was further along than that... <br /><br />They did the same thing so far as COGIC is concerned. Look, I love the church, serve it until I die, BUT it is not to be worshipped...COGIC is a church among men that has it's issues some more serious than others and being a part of the organization doesn't give anyone a leg up on anyoen else, we've all got to live saved and be holy. <br /><br />I haven't seen the message, so I'll be looking for internet blurbs. Let me know if you find any. <br /><br />If you saw it, what did you think of it?District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-11769878298920552632010-11-16T11:56:17.873-06:002010-11-16T11:56:17.873-06:00I think you you thought I was asking about Jakes p...I think you you thought I was asking about Jakes preaching. I could care less about him. I was really asking about Bishop Blake's our Presiding Bishop of COGICbrdavisionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15246953723391048968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-4292036598609398892010-11-15T16:12:04.695-06:002010-11-15T16:12:04.695-06:00Minister Brandon,
As noted, he avoided anythign c...Minister Brandon,<br /><br />As noted, he avoided anythign controversial and I pointed out some of the other information in the commentary dated <b>November 10, 2010 11:12 PM</b><br /><br />Check that out, that's as best as my memory will serve at the present.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-38699800930683530372010-11-15T15:37:44.824-06:002010-11-15T15:37:44.824-06:00Pastor Burnett what are your comments on Bishop...Pastor Burnett what are your comments on Bishop's Blakes sermon?brdavisionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15246953723391048968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-81114197436979228102010-11-14T23:51:54.811-06:002010-11-14T23:51:54.811-06:00Elder Johnson,
Thanks for stopping by, I try to ...Elder Johnson, <br /><br />Thanks for stopping by, I try to write thoughts as I'm thinking them about certain situations and commentary I hear. While I am certainly not infallible, I do my best to think the spiritual implication of things I hear through and I also listen for what is not being said. <br /><br />Thank God the people that grace our pulpits are no mental midgets. They are thinkers, doctors and well studied. I take their applications of scripture seriously, cautiously and with some health scpeticism. <br /><br />First, like you , I love his church...Love it far too much to sit silently when I see things that endanger it. As far as I can tell, we're doing good, but there are more than a few thigns to be cautious of...<br /><br />1- If we can raise funds to address the issues of children overseas through COGIC charities, we can certainly establish a plan that ministers to the victims, including children, of COGIC abuse. In fact we don't need a banquet or $200 tabbles to do so. All we need is the WILL. <br /><br />For our leadership to not act on this issue is incredulous and I love every one of them and gladly submit myself to their direction on the issue IF they will ever respond to my request. <br /><br />You said:<i>"I too was a tad disturbed by TD Jakes invitation to our Convocation - I get it, though, his celebrity is contagious to a number of folk to a certain degree...</i><br /><br />Jakes preached an acceptable message, avoided areas of conflict as he should have, but his presence was about budget. They had to make budget and Jakes draws teh money. As I figure it, maybe about $500,000. That's why he holds the line on his fees and I can't say that I blame him. most of us grown folk, I believe, understand that type of transaction. I hate to sound over-critical in that area. <br /><br />Thanks for the 411 on Michah. I just need a clarification and you provided it. Somethign abut him reminded me of TONEX too much, it must have been his vocal range or something...<br /><br />I agree that the Convocation was good and there were some good things as a result. Like you, I believe we can and should build on the success, what I am focused on are three primary things:<br /><br />1- How we heal our hurting and those who have been hurt by us.<br /><br />2- The commercialization of the church...Do we now hold that the only relevant ministry in the church are the ministries of teh mega-pastor or mega-church? Do we now hold that the only relevant praise in our church comes from those who win Grammy's, Dove's and appear on TV? What are we pouring into the storefront churches under this new plan and direction? every church won't have a large membership, are they less significant now? We need to clarify this at all levels, because I see two churches emerging as a result.<br /><br />3- Our we compromising our identity to promote our visability? I am seeing a desire to be accepted by others or being "affirmed" as a matter of importance. This is disturbing to me. We should not do things to be "approved" by people...we should do what Christ gives us because he has directed us to, without any ulterior motive. <br /><br />This is challenging and I am just a voice in the wind, but my aim is to not simply criticize, but to cause us to stop, think and evaluate what we are doing and the implications of what we are setting forth. <br /><br />Thanks for coming over and sharing, please feel free to share anytime and provocation and reflection can be a good thing when done in respect.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-66433647844074680662010-11-14T23:23:28.444-06:002010-11-14T23:23:28.444-06:00ooh, and another thing...some lines you cross you ...ooh, and another thing...some lines you cross you can't go back over...A preacher rapes children, never needs to pastor again. Some things you give up. <br /><br />Discouragement is one thing. That may have been what his commentary was limited to...but some sins cost you what God called you to do. Yes, he knew what you would do, but he did not fatalistically predetermine you to do it...Thsi preacher believe in fatalism.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-73232162811819102942010-11-14T23:16:59.352-06:002010-11-14T23:16:59.352-06:00Sorry my brethern, I have a problem with what Jone...Sorry my brethern, I have a problem with what Jones was trying to smoothly perpetrate...<br /><br />He said when you walk in principle, you won't need miracle...I understand that statement as it pertains to sin...If one doesn't sin, one doesn't have to get bailed out, but he made no qualifier for his statement...<br /><br />This church believes in miracles and need miracles sometimes through no fault of our own...Paul was a miracle worker who walked in principle and yet had a thorn in the flesh that God would not remove...<br /><br />This man is a "smoothie" but he teaches a false scriptural philosophy and to come in the congregation of miracle believers and make a general statement like that without the proper qualifications is sad.<br /><br />He tried to redeem himself with the 3 little pigs analogy, with the exception of calling COGIC like the 3rd pig, he was allright.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-8056902515046511462010-11-14T22:37:25.421-06:002010-11-14T22:37:25.421-06:00Hello Superintendent,
I have just read your posts...Hello Superintendent,<br /><br />I have just read your posts regarding the 103rd Convocation... I have to say that I love the Church of God in Christ... I see the need for change and elevation to the next level.... and overall I give the Convocation an Aplus.... That said, I too was a tad disturbed by TD Jakes invitation to our Convocation - I get it, though, his celebrity is contagious to a number of folk to a certain degree... And while the show business of his appearance seemed to affect the Saints, His message was certainly timely. I was disappointed in the singers..They needed to sit down. period. As for Sharpton.... well 'nuff said...<br /><br />I think Micah Stampley is soft, but I don't get gay from him... I have dealt with him at some of the events I produce and I may be wrong, I believe he has a wife (not that that means anything these days, I'm just sayn.....)<br /><br />In the end, there obviously is a lot of work that needs to be done inside COGIC... I respect the Presiding Bishop as he takes the Grand Old Church to the next level... does he have a lot a work to do? yes. Are there urgent issues that require immediate remedy? of course. <br /><br />Let's now take the essence of progress gleaned from the Convocation and be the change that we need to be... because at the end of the day, it is all about operating in GOD's glory.. not men...Greg Johnsonhttp://cottonpatchcontemplations.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-31414290467422879832010-11-14T20:46:44.579-06:002010-11-14T20:46:44.579-06:00Supertindent,
I didn't know you were on here ...Supertindent,<br /><br />I didn't know you were on here talking about the meeting--I've been catching it most of the nights online. My favorite night was Bishop Moody--one comment he mentioned stayed with me; although I think people didn't seem to care for his sentiment. He said that in every other denomination, there seems to be a burning passion/focus for people feeling like they are called to international missions--but that is not the case in COGIC. I really enjoyed him and all the international preachers.<br /><br />Lowlights--Micah Stampley is an awful singer; there was only so much yelping and shrieking from a man, that I could take.<br /><br />I couldn't wait for Kim Burrell and Donnie McClurkin to have a seat--I thought it was a Hawkins concert for a minute--I agree with ya, thank God for people like Marvin Winans, who still use common sense.<br /><br />By the way, I do not like the fact that they allow the singers to occupy the pulpit to sing songs. It sends the message that singing has as much importance as the preached word; I don't like the idea of Kim Burrell being that close to reach out and touch one of the bishops--disturbing.<br /><br />I was disconcerted by Bishop Jakes message, not to mention all that offering raising. I felt like he was taking a lot of digs at the saints or at COGIC. He kept repeatedly saying, you gotta let go of tradition and stuff. I almost felt like Blake helped him write his message for those points--I don't know, I felt like he was setting us up for some change in the church or something.<br /><br />Overall, I am concerned about Blakes' overemphasis on celebrity and known figures being associated with COGIC--I mean we should be known for the anointing,signs, and wonders--not for who's who, concerts gracing our meetings...I mean Noel Jones and Jakes of all people--ugh!<br /><br />Thanks for letting me know about this Hutchins and Walker pastors--thank goodness there was some sound preaching at the meeting--maybe I'll pick up their tapes.Rogersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-78765085624371831612010-11-14T00:39:55.419-06:002010-11-14T00:39:55.419-06:00Pastor Hutchins was the most scripturally inspired...Pastor Hutchins was the most scripturally inspired preacher yet. He taught a message centerd around 3 essential things for the manifestation of God's glory: 1) coporate worship 2) corporate repentance 3) corporate praise.<br /><br />Now I understand his premise in dealing with an organizational body, but I think he also laid the foundation taht these things begin within the individual life of the believer...ie: worship DOES NOT begin with the corporate body, it begins in the life of the individual. <br /><br />If we are are going to see a manifestation of HIS Glory, it is encumbent upon us to have an individual relationship with God whereby our life exemplifies worship. <br /><br />Then he introduced teh concept of "trickle down" blessings...the blessings of the leader "trickle down" to the members and followers IF we are in line with the vision...I can't say that I believe that and I don't see strong scriptural support for it, although it does make a good study...<br /><br />I think we should explore that one more...I know about Psalms 91 I believe, but I don't believe that's applicable to this one.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-51509122526253681412010-11-13T09:25:01.642-06:002010-11-13T09:25:01.642-06:00Pastor Edwin Walker...GOD BLESS YOU...for remindin...Pastor Edwin Walker...GOD BLESS YOU...for reminding this church of how we got here...it wasn't by being cute it was through and by the power of the Holy Ghost!!!<br /><br />The most anointed service yet!District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-16271877626852167462010-11-13T09:14:47.409-06:002010-11-13T09:14:47.409-06:00Morning Manna Saturday was FANTASTIC...Pastor Edwi...Morning Manna Saturday was FANTASTIC...Pastor Edwin Walker brought it back to Sanctification.<br /><br />He talked about How Israel mishandled the ark because of sin 2Sam. 4, lost the glory to the Phillistines, were not prepared to handle it upon its return and had to sanctify themselves and prepare themselves to handle it. <br /><br />Holy Ghost message based on the word and ministering to the people, NOT based on defending the actions of man or men.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-43688389817019654422010-11-12T23:36:39.452-06:002010-11-12T23:36:39.452-06:00One of the commentors on the web said the followin...One of the commentors on the web said the following:<br /><br />"I think that served as an Alter Call, Prayer, and Benediction"<br /><br />I said it was a 3 for 1 special-LOL...U see when we got to get to the singin' we can't let too many things stand in the way...Clarks, Donnie, Burrell and unnamed guests...have a quick prayer and and ease on down the road. <br /><br />They's all be lat IF there's a Morning Manna tomorrow...I know everyone is having breakfast, but not sure about the prayer. <br /><br />Talk 'bout entertainment???District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-78480650737572817582010-11-12T22:06:15.075-06:002010-11-12T22:06:15.075-06:00Love the Clark Sisters, but someone PLEASE tell th...Love the Clark Sisters, but someone PLEASE tell them to not sing to honor the unsaved anymore...the tribute to Frankie beverly was over the top and as a "product" of this church, is out of order. <br /><br />We must think and be accountable for our actions and associations. Love u though 4- real...u my folks!District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-42859379269830380292010-11-12T12:58:08.902-06:002010-11-12T12:58:08.902-06:00I remember now...Based on my conversation 16 years...I remember now...Based on my conversation 16 years ago with the then 90 year old Bishop T.T. Rose of Central Illinois, he told me that O.T. Jones was not accepted because he was the first Bishop to wire his money back home before the meeting was over.<br /><br />He told me that for some reason Bishop O.T. Jones was compelled to wire his money...I can't remember whether he thought he wasn't going to get paid or exactly what the issue was, nevertheless it caused such an uproar amongst leadership that they were compelled to have an election and for some reason remove his name from history...Before O.T. Jones Jr. passed they tried to have a reprieve, but since I notice, as I hear history, Bishop O.T. Jones name isn't mentioned....I think I may have my next COGIC topic, but I'll check with some of my other sources first. I want to make sure that I'm as accurate as possible.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-51171939188131058422010-11-12T10:40:45.304-06:002010-11-12T10:40:45.304-06:00Now, COGIC we cannot just rewrite our history as i...Now, COGIC we cannot just rewrite our history as it suits us...Bishop O.T. Jones was the leader of this church after Bishop Mason died. <br /><br />Now, I don't know exactly what happened, but I do know the Saints treated him bad and didn't accept him. I will find out the details and i have a few friends of the Old School that are historians of this church and I'll check with them for details. <br /><br />We cannot simply discard or not mention who we wish.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-65955443704911370412010-11-12T07:32:31.653-06:002010-11-12T07:32:31.653-06:00I'm sorry, I was wrong....there was an altar c...I'm sorry, I was wrong....there was an altar call last night, God made one BEFORE the word. He stopped the service and blessed the people. <br /><br />I just hope somebody knew they could get saved during that time.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-19355043981916106552010-11-11T23:52:52.218-06:002010-11-11T23:52:52.218-06:00We got a LONG way to go to deal with some real iss...We got a LONG way to go to deal with some real issues...If all we gonna do is have a revival service and raise money, it can be done more inexpensively... or should I say a lot less expensively...<br /><br />Marvin said it best..."I gotta go" Did you see that...Kim and Donnie wanted to have a concert, Bishop Marvin, who they introduced as "brother Marvin" took the mic, said a short phrase and put it down...KUDOS Bishop Winans!District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-11974989478878370062010-11-11T23:49:00.045-06:002010-11-11T23:49:00.045-06:00Well in the end...we made a lot of noise...OK...
...Well in the end...we made a lot of noise...OK...<br /><br />I haven't seen one service that has called for the lost to be saved yet...I guess everybody is already saved...OK...<br /><br />Gotta go...District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-79731370774238196882010-11-11T23:47:04.625-06:002010-11-11T23:47:04.625-06:00So disappointed to see that the plan of salvation ...So disappointed to see that the plan of salvation was not offered or even a hint of an altar call. As the young people say in the social networking acronym, SMH...(SHAKIN' MY HEAD)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-57401143114199776612010-11-11T22:10:42.494-06:002010-11-11T22:10:42.494-06:00Bishop Moody ~ "Our compassion is on people f...Bishop Moody ~ "Our compassion is on people for their physical condition, but is our compassion upon them for their soul"<br /><br />"There must be a cry upon them for their soul, that we won't leave them for a good education, that we won't leave them for their material posessions"<br /><br />Thank you Bishop...we will "PRAY until something happens!"<br /><br />That man exactly 30 years my elder (76 years old) was FANTASTIC!<br /><br />Bishop Whitehead said that the YPWW is a "New Thing"...a new program designed to win the souls of our youth within 12 months. <br /><br />I'm excited about this because it is WORD centered...that's a good thing. <br /><br />Now, Donnie got up yellin', but his voice wasn't ready...God help us who are name and personality struck.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-43827470576530841022010-11-11T19:32:40.371-06:002010-11-11T19:32:40.371-06:00The presentation from the Missions Dept, was and i...The presentation from the Missions Dept, was and is fantastic. Hearing about all the great works going on over seas and in the southern hemisphere, just all over the world, was a beautiful blessing. <br /><br />God bless the workers, Bishop Moody for his perseverance. Bishop moody is a personal friend of mine and a man that I respect very highly.<br /><br />I'm very glad that Presiding Bishop Blake is dedicated to this work in all facets.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-86486912148088695872010-11-11T07:54:16.942-06:002010-11-11T07:54:16.942-06:00Also souls are not the focus anymore its M-O-N-E-Y...Also souls are not the focus anymore its M-O-N-E-Y, then its church membership....more people mean more money. Pastor's ask if anyone wants to join the church before they ask if there are any who want to give their lives to the Lord.brdavisionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15246953723391048968noreply@blogger.com