tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post6608933361477601783..comments2024-03-27T11:13:34.520-05:00Comments on The Dunamis Word: The Battle For The Church & SexualityUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-45817455491766180152008-01-24T16:42:00.000-06:002008-01-24T16:42:00.000-06:00Saints, look at this thread: http://www.thepraisep...Saints, look at this thread: <BR/><BR/>http://www.thepraiseparty.com/messageboard/default.asp?sub=show&action=posts&fid=686&tid=507665<BR/><BR/>You may have to get an ID to comment or post but it'll be worth it. This is the SGN message board.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-85510319656780448302007-12-11T02:31:00.000-06:002007-12-11T02:31:00.000-06:00Thanks Kyle, No matter our scriptural differences ...Thanks Kyle, <BR/>No matter our scriptural differences I Thank God that we can identify when individuals are trying to twist and manipulate the scripture to create a totally different God. That Pastor Christian currently posting on Pulpit Pimps is a flat out mess. Ole Melly-Mel got him under control though(LOL)Thanks for stoppin by.District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-53157421378030083002007-12-11T02:00:00.000-06:002007-12-11T02:00:00.000-06:00Pastor Burnette,I want to commend you on your righ...Pastor Burnette,<BR/><BR/>I want to commend you on your righteous stance against Homosexuality. This scourge has been infiltrating the Church in recent times and is relentless in its desire to devour the flock. <BR/><BR/>P.S.<BR/><BR/>This is Kyle From Pulpit Pimps. Although I am a Conservative Christian and may disagree with you on some points I fully agree with this terrible movement within the Church.<BR/><BR/>KyleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-34526033553263519592007-11-24T13:21:00.000-06:002007-11-24T13:21:00.000-06:00Thank you so much for your thoughtful response Bro...Thank you so much for your thoughtful response Brother Burnett!<BR/>I do appreciate it. And I will direct other puzzled Canadians to your blog to read your explanation. Truly, the issue of corruption in the Black American church has bothered many of us for a long time. It's saddened us, discouraged us and we've often dropped our hands and asked, "What's wrong with our Brothers and Sisters back home!?!"<BR/><BR/>You broke it down, and you know what...when you look at it, there isn't the same level of "Cult of Christian Celebrity" here in Canada. Name me one hugely famous pastor or gospel artist from here? Not just Black ones, even try to name a White one. Hard pressed to come up with a big name I'll bet.<BR/>When we want big names, we bring them up from the States. Even with secular entertainers...if you want a name you have to typically leave Canada and try your hand down south.<BR/><BR/>I'll bet this has saved us a lot of grief though, now that I think of it in the context of your explanation. <BR/><BR/>It saddens me though, that the Black church leaders have been winking at sin just to 'build big and huge'. I know these folks realize their music ministers are creeping around; they've heard 'Bishop Preachgood' has been caught with a man...but when you can sing and preach-in the money...we'll just look the other way. How wicked!!<BR/>There are souls at stake here, not to mention the heartbreak and trauma gay relationships typically reap for those both directly and indirectly involved. And what of the wives and kids of those that creep!? They're potentially in the highest risk category of AIDS!! <BR/><BR/>So leadership will wink at your pain, wink at your sin, wink at your crisis of faith and then say, "Now get on up there and sing good now. Preach 'em in today!"<BR/><BR/>I find that to be complete exploitation. Nothing less! Oh, let me stop now lest I rant. sigh.<BR/><BR/>As you can tell, I really do get it now. <BR/><BR/>Thanks again Brother, I will be checking back.<BR/><BR/>Blessings,<BR/>JJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-32355178845512408862007-11-23T22:30:00.000-06:002007-11-23T22:30:00.000-06:00Sister JJ,I will offer a more in-depth answer to y...Sister JJ,<BR/><BR/>I will offer a more in-depth answer to your questions very soon, but my initial responses and observations are as follows:<BR/><BR/>The Black American church has walked on "egg shells" far too long in dealing with many substantive community issues. I personally believe that ministries have been so enamored with Growth, Visibility, Purpose, 5 Star Service and Stardom so much so that it has tailored and fashioned a message to serve ITSELF rather than serve God. In doing so, it left off from building the Kingdom one individual at a time to building larger buildings and acquiring more land and material. <BR/><BR/>In far too many ministries this acquisition of materialistic fame has been done at the expense of vast groups of individuals who were told that God will "work out everything" if they just "love HIM and praise HIM enough", and that "what you're going through and feeling is ONLY A TEST."<BR/><BR/>One of those neglected American Church segments is filled with homosexuals, an ever increasing number of whom who DO NOT ADMIT OR ACKNOWLEDGE their homosexuality or bi-sexuality as a SIN and further cover it up by marrying across gender partially because they know that wholesome heterosexual relationships are the right and the acceptable thing to do)Many of those same individuals unfortunately yet like sex with and maintain sexual relationships with other homosexuals and live double lives as a result.<BR/><BR/>You see, this is just like with any sin. The lust of it and for it is NEVER satisfied. What was once shame has now been replaced by boldness and a request for acknowledgement, position, place, purpose etc. Many of those very same things that the church endorsed when these individuals were being overlooked. <BR/><BR/>Put all of that together with the fact that we are in the "Great Apostasy" that Jesus mentioned in Matt. 24 and that the moral compass of America (United States) is pointed toward further moral decay, and on top of that, the most socially liberal sector of the American community is the black community in general...That becomes a HIGHLY VOLATILE mixture ready to explode in the faces of the church and public from coast to coast. <BR/><BR/>I believe that this class of people have been neglected by the American Church. The reason I say neglected is because the church failed to ADEQUATELY TEACH on these issues. The church has taken segways on Sunday morning but other than that minimal actions to correct wrong and address the problem. Therefore, many homosexuals and lesbians have been left with no or very little understanding as it pertains to their sexual inclinations, desires and SINS. The Black American church has partially confused this issue with issues of civil liberties and civil rights. Many of its ministers and leaders have forsaken their duties to preach and teach against SIN, (and I think I've demonstrated that homosexuality is a SIN) and have chosen the path of least resistance. <BR/><BR/>Now, I've asked others to chime in on this issue also. Many of those individuals are personally aware of SPECIFIC sexually deviant behaviors of MANY of the top Gospel artists and ministers and are in the fight to bring the message of TRUTH, holiness and purity to God's people. I hope they will add their personal knowledge to this conversation. We may be further surprised by what we read. <BR/><BR/>I'll get back later. <BR/><BR/>Blessed!District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-5587511135122208622007-11-23T15:15:00.000-06:002007-11-23T15:15:00.000-06:00Oh hi there! Fancy meeting you here, hehe! Here go...Oh hi there! Fancy meeting you here, hehe! Here goes:<BR/>"Did you leave a response at GCM Watch if your question was not given the answer you expected? What about the response you didnt "get"? "<BR/><BR/>No I didn't leave a response. I figured that's all you had to say on the matter. What I didn't 'get' was the stastical approach you suggested in lieu of offering an explanation. Granted, overstatements are frequently made and rumours are spread. But without going as far as to quantify & qualify the presence of gay activity in gospel music, I was merely looking for your opinion of possible root causes behind it all.<BR/><BR/>"Also what country do you live in? That might help contextually to answer your question. You might be surprised to know that homosexuality is everywhere, even in your country. Also who exactly is making the statements that you are citing. (Thus, our response to you.)"<BR/><BR/>I live in Western Canada. I'm not surprised to know homosexuality is everywhere! To offer context, a bunch of us here are African American descendants. So this is our cultural base. And we sing black gospel music. To us, the great talents Stateside have set the standard in many ways (musicianship, arrangements, vocal performance...etc). *Perhaps its part of the overall inferiority complex Canada has with the States, LOL! (Just a joke, Canadians reading this, don't go crazy! Although you know there's truth in this.)<BR/><BR/>Anyways, imagine our utter shock when some of these people we have greatly admired and styled after have been exposed as gay. I'm talking Walter Hawkins, James Cleveland to start. Don't laugh...ya we got our info a few decades late! Then a few folks from here toddled down to the GMWA. Came back speechless. Never saw so much gayness, including flirting, eye-ing up, lewd comments, etc. in their life. All in the name of Jesus. They stammered, "I never knew Black people acted like that!" And then there's what Pastor Burnett has written on this very blog. Gives one the impression homosexuality is, along with other wild behaviors he's mentioned, a pervasive problem. Last night I was listening to G Craige Lewis on YouTube likening the GMWA acronym to "Gay Men With Aids" and putting that whole convention on blast....I could go on but there's some sources for you that have created this impression for me.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"Of course the simple answer is SIN. Sin is the cause of rebellion and disobedience against God. <BR/><BR/>Are you saying that you didnt know that?"<BR/><BR/>Yes sir, I did know that. No need to be condescending, please. We don't have this as a pervading problem in our churches or gospel scene here though. Again, we're a few years behind! So what's happened (in your opinion) in the African American community that has produced this? <BR/><BR/>I suppose we're still more traditional here, so if you're singing gospel music or preaching, we assume you've chosen to believe the Bible and live a Christian life and that's all there is to it. So for example, if you're a pastor and start having an affair and it gets out, Black folk will run you out. No pastor here has ever dared to have a child out of wedlock and parade it around like Brother Burnett mentioned.<BR/><BR/>"You said your question is simple, but surely you know the answer is both simple and complex all at once." <BR/><BR/>Well not really. Obviously we are more simple-type folk up here so perhaps I was naive in expecting a simple answer. And we probably don't understand all the complexities having not had to deal with them in the Black church world here yet. <BR/><BR/>"Are were you looking for some specific information other than that?"<BR/><BR/>No, not really looking for some other specific info.<BR/><BR/>"And what exactly did you want to do with that information? Is it to help someone in your country or to help reform black gospel music in the US?"<BR/><BR/>I don't have an exact motive behind asking this question, and no plan is in place to "do" something with the information. No it is not to help someone in my country. And it is not to my intent by asking this question to undertake the reform of Black gospel music in the US.<BR/><BR/>In fact, I can't quite wrap my head around much of the flagrant activities in the Black <BR/>American church let alone devise a plan to reform them from afar. <BR/><BR/>However, what I am compelled to do is really live a more righteous life, look again at the standards for holiness and hold myself to a higher account lest I disappoint someone who is moved by my message and talent, and then finds out my walk does not match my talk. In essence, learn from these poor examples of the Christian lifestyle and purpose to be different. <BR/><BR/>So could a 'lil country girl from Canada with mud between her toes' live right and sing right and reform Black gospel in your country? <BR/><BR/>Can't promise that, Brother!<BR/><BR/>Blessings,<BR/>JJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-70568311940888722442007-11-23T12:30:00.000-06:002007-11-23T12:30:00.000-06:00Dear Sista JJ,Did you leave a response at GCM Watc...Dear Sista JJ,<BR/>Did you leave a response at GCM Watch if your question was not given the answer you expected? What about the response you didnt "get"?<BR/><BR/>Also what country do you live in? That might help contextually to answer your question. You might be surprised to know that homosexuality is everywhere, even in your country. Also who exactly is making the statements that you are citing. (Thus, our response to you.)<BR/><BR/>You said your question is simple, but surely you know the answer is both simple and complex all at once. <BR/><BR/>Of course the simple answer is SIN. Sin is the cause of rebellion and disobedience against God. <BR/><BR/>Are you saying that you didnt know that? Are were you looking for some specific information other than that? And what exactly did you want to do with that information? Is it to help someone in your country or to help reform black gospel music in the US? <BR/><BR/>Please clarify.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-9437170628746962492007-11-21T21:20:00.000-06:002007-11-21T21:20:00.000-06:00Hello Pastor Burnett! Wow, you really come with an...Hello Pastor Burnett! Wow, you really come with an uncompromising message. What a relief. I posted the question to below to Gay Christian Movement Watch. I didn't really 'get' the response provided, when as you'll see I asked a very simple and valid question. May I ask you the same question?<BR/>"What is behind all the homosexuality and sexual sin in the Black American Church?" A sista from another country would really appreciate your opinion....<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Hello,<BR/>I’m from another country. So what’s the norm in the States isn’t always typical here. I’ve been reading comment after comment about how Black Gospel music is filled with gay men, both out and on the down low. Apparently this includes choir directors, soloists and music ministers- not just recording artists.<BR/>The comments are usually prefaced with “everybody knows…” meaning you don’t have to live under a rock to know the reality of homosexuality proliferating Black Gospel in the States.<BR/>My question is simple.<BR/>Why??<BR/>This is not the case in my country, so will someone please explain to this sister what’s going on in the Black Church world Stateside?<BR/>Blessings,<BR/>JJ<BR/><BR/>GCMW: JJ, until there is some sort of accurate counting of these men and a comparable study of those who are not, it may be an overstatement to say that black gospel music is “filled with gay men, both out and on the downlow”. Of course the nature of sin is that it seeks to remain hidden, thus such a count would certainly never happen. If and until it does, much of the cumlative remarks would remain in the realm of speculation.<BR/>Questions that need to be answered is: How many men are in black gospel music? Of those men, how many are professed homosexuals?<BR/>Why isAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-73782987037767133722007-11-13T11:51:00.000-06:002007-11-13T11:51:00.000-06:00Praise God Pastor Burnett,What do you respond to "...Praise God Pastor Burnett,<BR/>What do you respond to "THE WORD" accept. AMEN! When everything else passes<BR/>away it is "THE WORD" that will be standing! I Bless God for you and those<BR/>that are a part of the "Remnant". Those who say, "For God I live and for<BR/>God I'll die!" and really mean it! We are definitely living in a time where<BR/>God is saying "Choose ye this day whom you will serve!" If you are lukewarm<BR/>His promise to you is that you will be "Spewed (spit) out of His mouth!"<BR/>Problem is that many have been spit out and are under the dellusion that<BR/>they are still in the will of God and He don't even know them because they<BR/>are workers of inquity! God has made His Word so simple that even a child<BR/>cannot err. It's when we choose to have our cake and eat it too that we<BR/>create areas of gray and begin to complicate the meaning of God's Word to<BR/>suit our situation and/or to soothe our conscious. God knew these days were<BR/>coming and told us so when he said, "Men's heart would wax cold and they<BR/>would rather believe a lie rather than the truth!" I thank God I know who I<BR/>am in Him and I stand with you Pastor Burnett and all my "Blood Washed<BR/>Sisters and Brothers" on the side of Holiness!<BR/>Be Blessed & Stand Strong As We Fight the Good Fight of Faith!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com