tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post4819675198389608286..comments2024-03-27T11:13:34.520-05:00Comments on The Dunamis Word: COGIC Delivers & Withdraws Comprehensive Sexual Education To YouthUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-70063240451913073312016-06-13T17:32:18.012-05:002016-06-13T17:32:18.012-05:00It seems that COGIC was teaching a single sex, com...It seems that COGIC was teaching a single sex, comprehensive sex education program to these young men, rooted in the "theory of planned behavior" This is a "science based" program, but these type of sexual education programs have not proven themselves to be more valuable than abstinence only type of programs. <br /><br />Comprehensive sexual education is something that I am familiar with as in my community the local school district set forth this type of program to come up to state law requirements in sexual education. The "myth" is that this sort of information lowers pregnancy and STD's because it gives information that can be used during the act of sex, but sex, especially at youth ages, is hardly ever approached in a rational manner or way. <br /><br />What we should do, is develop a program that can be taught at the local level, after leaders and PARENTS of these kids are taught and trained on the issues. Unlike school, church is voluntary. If this is taught to children where the parents are not saved, there is an issue...as well as there should be even if the parents are saved and attend the church. <br /><br />The church has the confusion that it should be the repository and dispenser of all things and all information. That is not the case. the church should empower the parents and families and equip them to minister to their children. I believe THAT is the most effective answer to the question. District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-49426186039631918432016-06-13T15:04:48.134-05:002016-06-13T15:04:48.134-05:00for me, this was the most sober of Elder Carter...for me, this was the most sober of Elder Carter's ongoing commentary. I actually have discussed this with a variety of Christians across our community because it begs an interesting question. And that is what is the Church's role in counseling young people in the face of increased and rampant teen pregnancy, sexual immorality and increased desensitivity to sex of all kinds? Truth is that teens are "gettin' busy".. we live in the era of "netflix and chill" Is the Church's message falling on deaf ears? Does that mean the Church now succumbs to societal pressure and begin to advance the secular solutions and information (which someone in the COGIC obviously decided to do). In the words of Paul "God forbid!" Personally I agree that we MUST stand on biblical principles as we dialogue with young folk about sexual matters. However, I also think a more potent message needs to accompany our repeated biblical prose as we try to reach the young. This situation is indeed serious, egregious and unfortunate. I see that Bishop Blake has dealt with it. And your point that perhaps the damage is already done to those thousands who have already received this manual is well stated. This is a tough one.hannibaltharadiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15531144562228476545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-11164481522812170922016-06-01T20:40:20.560-05:002016-06-01T20:40:20.560-05:00Bro. Shuler,
I agree my brother. They distanced ...Bro. Shuler, <br /><br />I agree my brother. They distanced themselves from the Carter incident forthrightly didn't they? As I said, within about 72 hours after Convocation they were on it, especially when it was aired on these late night shows. The church wanted to hurry up and "normalize" themselves before the world. <br /><br />In this, when the teaching centers around damaging their own children and potentially millions of other impressionable youth, they speak ambiguously. Fact is that is a spineless way to address the issue and one that does not honor God nor the people that serve in the church. <br /><br />When there is no accountability in a relationship and one feels that he or she can do whatever they wish to the other, that relationship cannot possibly be centered around love. the love of Christ does not have a value ethic such as that. So to me, this is highly disturbing. <br /><br />makes me wonder, what type of advocacy that they do in their community. I think some have been tricked into believing that running around putting on shows and conferences is ministry and all they have to do...What are they doing in their community for their local schools and municipalities? Are they holding their community leaders accountable? i think based on their response to this, we have the answer to the question. Anyone committed through ministry to the community would understand the urgency of this and the conflict that it brings within the church. More than half of these folk are willing to look the other way and dumb down...NOT ME...and thank God for you and others like you too!!!! District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-81428228480523349692016-06-01T16:51:54.632-05:002016-06-01T16:51:54.632-05:00You are absolutely right Pastor Burnett. Now I'...You are absolutely right Pastor Burnett. Now I'm just wondering when or if we will hear from leaders of the International Youth Department and Bishop Blake about this matter? That statement they put out is not what the church wants to hear. We need accountability and if you ask me, everybody in that youth department needs to be fired immediately. It's amazing how the church distanced itself from Elder Carter as if he's not a brother in Christ for preaching that message back at the 2014 Holy Convocation. That message was a call to action and a call back to our original doctrines. We all see it was not long for our Presiding Bishop and his PR team to dissect Elder Carter's message an issue a statement about it on this most critical time of our lives concerning moral values. Once again, we need to hear from our leader and the leaders of the youth department immediately and not talking about no statement either. Be blessed Pastor.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18097197675147866166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-84215843254043638862016-06-01T09:31:43.972-05:002016-06-01T09:31:43.972-05:00Now, one can criticize the delivery of information...Now, one can criticize the delivery of information all one wants. The fact is that people tend to do nothing until the light is shown on certain actions and activities. Some folk have a clandestine vision of the natural church, as if it always acts or should act with some lofty and majestic actions. The church does not operate or act in that manner. Never has. Dealing with serious issues sometimes takes confrontation. Paul and Barnabas had one. Paul, Peter and the first council of Elder in the NT church as recorded in the book of Acts had one. To say that those things were not done in love is to call into question the very ethic, values and modes of operation of the NT Apostles and the modern church foundation. <br /><br />Because this was not done and or delivered privately, there is no need to act as if it needs to be or must be resolved privately. Prior to Elder Carter presenting this, NO ONE made any moves to correct, modify or remove this material. If not for the LIGHT that Carter placed on the issue, with his supporting evidence of the written transcript which was undeniable, the booklet would probably still be up for sale. <br /><br />If not for this article being circulated as heavy as it has been, the Saints would yet be uninformed about what their money is supporting. <br /><br />Big corporation and big religion MUST be held accountable and The Dunamis Word seeks to serve to do its part in that mission!District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-58367431823504059572016-05-30T19:01:31.987-05:002016-05-30T19:01:31.987-05:00Sister, you are on point! All these "Chiefs&q...Sister, you are on point! All these "Chiefs", but nobody knows anything??? As I stated in the article, if Carter had never mentioned it, how long would this manual have been available for distribution? I mean, prior to it being taken down the webpage was full of all kinds of comments praising the book and the youth leaders...either them folk were lying or their were blind and stupid! Either way, I doubt if anyone that praised this publication was saved at all...They certainly WERE NOT adherents to the doctrines and teachings of holiness. District Supt. Harvey Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15315686602819371111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2357475346759651140.post-26747389015127223942016-05-30T12:56:23.448-05:002016-05-30T12:56:23.448-05:00The truth be told, leadership knew about it. But, ...The truth be told, leadership knew about it. But, they have turned their backs on Pastor Carter because he has the audacity to come against Blake and his board. Jesus help us!!! Leadership should be held accountable for every word printed in that sex manual. Ever since Pastor Carter preached the unadulterated Word of God in the 2014 Convocation, the church has cast him away. There are some of us that believe and support Pastor Carter's findings and the things he has exposed. The worst is yet to come. This is just the tip of the iceberg. God be with Pastor Carter and keep him safe and provide every thing he has need of is my prayer, as he fightsaid against the Kingdom of darkness and the rulers of darkness in high places. Our church needs deliverance from the current leadership and return back to the doctrine and principles of holiness and sanctification. JanMariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18272301112439049476noreply@blogger.com